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#1840994 - 02/09/12 12:30 AM Re: Why Do Children Drop Out of Piano Lessons? [Re: btb]
Horowitzian Offline
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Originally Posted By: btb
Imagine Glasslove (A Madam with an iron hand)
owning up to saying of their progeny taking piano lessons ...

“I have sworn to my husband that I will let them quit
on numerous occasions (especially when they,
out of frustration, have fallen to the floor in a pool of tears
But adding:
“Only time will tell if my younger son will stick with the piano.”

The ambitious dreams of proud Mums so easily hit the fan?



No wonder they leave home asap.



Why do you assume the frustration was due to overly heavy handed parental pressure?
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#1840998 - 02/09/12 12:38 AM Re: Why Do Children Drop Out of Piano Lessons? [Re: RonaldSteinway]
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Originally Posted By: RonaldSteinway
Originally Posted By: cefinow
My mom would just get me lessons here and there, for as long as I was interested. Which usually wasn't very long. I was dreadfully handicapped by poor sight reading, and I remember complaining to one teacher after another, I can't sight read.. it's really hard for me to sight read... They never paid attention because somehow I showed up the next week knowing the music. But it made practicing so extremely difficult as I would spell out each note, locate it on the keyboard, try to fix it in memory, then look back and try to find the next note on the sheet music. I could keep this up for about a few months at a time, then would give up, start showing up at lessons saying "I didn't work on it... didn't get a chance to do this..." Then lessons would stop. It made me feel really bad. I remember times just staring despondently at the wall behind the piano and trying to gather up strength to go on with the next measure and wondering why I didn't have enough discipline to do this (which my mom said I lacked)... oh gosh it was just horrible discouragement. You couldn't just go on youtube to find out what something sounded like either. At 16, I poked at the first measures of the Rachmaninov prelude in G-minor op.23-5 and could not make heads or tails of what was going on, and that was the end of lessons. Forever. Or almost forever. wink
But I am so happy to be able to sight read better now, it is like whole vistas opening up, which I always felt were closed when I was a teenager!


Did you do well at school or average or below average? I noticed smart kids have good sight reading ability. Average kids at school usually have problem with sight reading.


Um, I wasn't exactly average, no... but still couldn't sight read. What an odd perspective on the sight-reading question, though. It's not rocket science. There are certain keys to sight reading that could be easily grasped by anyone, but I wasn't getting them "back then." My teacher now had the same problem-- poor sight-reading, relied on memorization, but in conservatory improved to the point that she won a sight-reading award. So she has a little more empathy for my predicament, and with her guidance, my sight-reading seems to be improving rapidly.

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#1841000 - 02/09/12 12:42 AM Re: Why Do Children Drop Out of Piano Lessons? [Re: Jolteon]
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You ask Horror,
“Why do you assume the frustration was due to
overly heavy handed parental pressure?”

Surely the excessive zeal of parents SAYS IT ALL ...
when progeny
“have fallen to the floor in a pool of tears”.

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#1841009 - 02/09/12 01:03 AM Re: Why Do Children Drop Out of Piano Lessons? [Re: Jolteon]
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Could have been frustration with a certain part of the music. wink
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#1841018 - 02/09/12 01:27 AM Re: Why Do Children Drop Out of Piano Lessons? [Re: Jolteon]
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As an old hand at the piano teaching game Horror,
I can say with well-travelled experience that ... the problem of a difficult piece of music can always be reduced to it’s parts ... and thereby steadily mastered .

However, sight-reading is the biggest bugbear for most students ... when collapse in utter frustration is a well-known by-product
(often heralding giving up piano lessons).

Thus for a child to
“have fallen to the floor in a pool of tears” ... speaks for a tyrannical Mum.

Ipso facto ... to quote the good books.

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#1841069 - 02/09/12 04:18 AM Re: Why Do Children Drop Out of Piano Lessons? [Re: Jolteon]
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I don't know why people are arguing over this issue.

There are thousands of reasons why kids quit piano. Thousands. One could take a survey and find percentages for each reason. Maybe there are a dozen or so "most popular reasons to quit lessons," but there just isn't ONE reason people quit or ONE reason people will come back to piano later on.

Any further discussion will just be a pool of anecdotes and opinions.
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#1841084 - 02/09/12 05:02 AM Re: Why Do Children Drop Out of Piano Lessons? [Re: Jolteon]
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Especially since we don't know 99% of them personally.
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#1841113 - 02/09/12 07:32 AM Re: Why Do Children Drop Out of Piano Lessons? [Re: btb]
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Loc: Michigan
Originally Posted By: btb
As an old hand at the piano teaching game Horror,
I can say with well-travelled experience that ... the problem of a difficult piece of music can always be reduced to it’s parts ... and thereby steadily mastered .

However, sight-reading is the biggest bugbear for most students ... when collapse in utter frustration is a well-known by-product
(often heralding giving up piano lessons).

Thus for a child to
“have fallen to the floor in a pool of tears” ... speaks for a tyrannical Mum.





Ipso facto ... to quote the good books.


Thanks for the hearty laugh BTB. The whole family, over their cereal bowls this morning, had a wonderful time laughing at your comments.
While my husband thought your comments were genuinely funny (and an absolutely absurd characterization of my disposition/parenting style), my children weren't laughing at first. Laughing commenced the moment I glared and raised my iron fist.
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#1841231 - 02/09/12 12:03 PM Re: Why Do Children Drop Out of Piano Lessons? [Re: Jolteon]
btb Offline
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Loc: Pretoria South Africa
Taking after Maggie Thatcher with the iron fist
Glasslove ... but the whole idea on this Forum is to have fun.

Your husband obviously plays golf to laugh at
my crazy jokes .

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#1841266 - 02/09/12 01:04 PM Re: Why Do Children Drop Out of Piano Lessons? [Re: Jolteon]
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My husband has never touched a standard sized golf club in his entire life (he has, on occasion, played with the wee ones on miniature golf courses with the children--that is, when I unchain them from their desks/musical instruments wink
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#1841533 - 02/09/12 08:37 PM Re: Why Do Children Drop Out of Piano Lessons? [Re: AZNpiano]
MaryAnn Offline
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Registered: 11/16/11
Posts: 237
Loc: Japan
Originally Posted By: AZNpiano
I don't know why people are arguing over this issue.

There are thousands of reasons why kids quit piano. Thousands. One could take a survey and find percentages for each reason. Maybe there are a dozen or so "most popular reasons to quit lessons," but there just isn't ONE reason people quit or ONE reason people will come back to piano later on.

Any further discussion will just be a pool of anecdotes and opinions.

+1

just like there may be more than one reason a kid is crying in frustration over piano.

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#1841656 - 02/10/12 02:37 AM Re: Why Do Children Drop Out of Piano Lessons? [Re: Jolteon]
btb Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
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Loc: Pretoria South Africa
Ouch! Even the husband is chained to the Iron Maiden ... and not allowed to play a real game of golf ... Christine is a tough cookie!

Judging by the lady’s repertoire ... the familiar highly scalar Clementi Sonatina 36-1
(which I have just played through and recorded ... Spiritoso and Andante) ...
tells of someone relatively new to the game ... still freeing up the fingers.

For what it’s worth, Clementi (the then Clayderman of the keyboard) sold pianos
from his London establishment ... and used the fleet-fingered Irishman John Field to help sell his wares ... both however were merely showing off a finger dexterity to wow the customers ... and their compositions can hardly be called quality music.

Just thought you chaps ought to know.

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