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#1840880 - 02/08/12 07:01 PM Jacobs School, theory lesson on Bach fugue in C major
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From Indiana University class. With professor (composer) Don Freund.

Trying out my sight-reading ability on Bach prelude and fugue in C major, in a Dover collection of Baroque pieces, made me realize (on the fugue): 1) I have to climb up onto the keyboard to twist my fingers into the right position! and 2) I have no idea what is going on with the music! (you know-- all that reading and finger-twisting took all my attention) So thought I had better find out something about fugues-- what is stretto-- entries-- false entries-- etc. etc. (and no I am not undertaking the WTC any time soon but just curious in the meantime!!) Hope another benighted soul will find this enlightening as well. (Part 2 not included but available)



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#1841192 - 02/09/12 10:40 AM Re: Jacobs School, theory lesson on Bach fugue in C major [Re: cefinow]
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Ah, I studied comp back at IU. Didn't explicitly study with Freund, but I attended some masterclasses with him. Great teacher... Are you there or did you just find this online?

And yes, there is a lot to know about fugue. This website provides some great info and visualizations of what's going on in Bach's fugues from the WTC...

http://www2.nau.edu/tas3/wtc.html
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#1841210 - 02/09/12 11:17 AM Re: Jacobs School, theory lesson on Bach fugue in C major [Re: cefinow]
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That was great! Thanks for posting it.

I am performing this piece this weekend and I like to do a bit of an introduction for each piece. The part about Yesterday will be perfect for this audience.

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#1841226 - 02/09/12 11:54 AM Re: Jacobs School, theory lesson on Bach fugue in C major [Re: 8ude]
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Originally Posted By: 8ude
Ah, I studied comp back at IU. Didn't explicitly study with Freund, but I attended some masterclasses with him. Great teacher... Are you there or did you just find this online?

And yes, there is a lot to know about fugue. This website provides some great info and visualizations of what's going on in Bach's fugues from the WTC...

http://www2.nau.edu/tas3/wtc.html


Oh, I wish! (that I were there) No, I just did a search for color-coded fugue on youtube. wink

Thanks for the link, too.

Originally Posted By: nosy ape
I am performing this piece this weekend and I like to do a bit of an introduction for each piece. The part about Yesterday will be perfect for this audience.


haha *tsk* so irreverent. Sounds like fun.

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#1841461 - 02/09/12 06:35 PM Re: Jacobs School, theory lesson on Bach fugue in C major [Re: cefinow]
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Originally Posted By: cefinow
From Indiana University class. With professor (composer) Don Freund.

Trying out my sight-reading ability on Bach prelude and fugue in C major, in a Dover collection of Baroque pieces, made me realize (on the fugue): 1) I have to climb up onto the keyboard to twist my fingers into the right position! and 2) I have no idea what is going on with the music! (you know-- all that reading and finger-twisting took all my attention) So thought I had better find out something about fugues-- what is stretto-- entries-- false entries-- etc. etc. (and no I am not undertaking the WTC any time soon but just curious in the meantime!!) Hope another benighted soul will find this enlightening as well. (Part 2 not included but available)



Good for you for seeking this out! There is a TON to learn about fugues and once you begin chipping away at the tip of the iceberg you'll realise what a genius Bach was. There are some other very good sights dealing with the WTC with analyses, scores, sound, etc. I'll take a look through my bookmarks and see what I can find. Twill post later.
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#1841519 - 02/09/12 07:49 PM Re: Jacobs School, theory lesson on Bach fugue in C major [Re: stores]
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Originally Posted By: stores
Originally Posted By: cefinow
From Indiana University class. With professor (composer) Don Freund.

Trying out my sight-reading ability on Bach prelude and fugue in C major, in a Dover collection of Baroque pieces, made me realize (on the fugue): 1) I have to climb up onto the keyboard to twist my fingers into the right position! and 2) I have no idea what is going on with the music! (you know-- all that reading and finger-twisting took all my attention) So thought I had better find out something about fugues-- what is stretto-- entries-- false entries-- etc. etc. (and no I am not undertaking the WTC any time soon but just curious in the meantime!!) Hope another benighted soul will find this enlightening as well. (Part 2 not included but available)



Good for you for seeking this out! There is a TON to learn about fugues and once you begin chipping away at the tip of the iceberg you'll realise what a genius Bach was. There are some other very good sights dealing with the WTC with analyses, scores, sound, etc. I'll take a look through my bookmarks and see what I can find. Twill post later.


Thanks stores. In the meantime I will order a third volume of WTC. wink As the Dover arrived today.

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#1841524 - 02/09/12 07:53 PM Re: Jacobs School, theory lesson on Bach fugue in C major [Re: cefinow]
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I too am learning this fugue and the YT vid is a truly wonderful help to understanding the structure of this fugue especially the stretto entries.

Have to laugh and agree with "climb up onto the keyboard to twist my fingers into the right position" !! Spot on!
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#1841657 - 02/10/12 02:47 AM Re: Jacobs School, theory lesson on Bach fugue in C major [Re: cefinow]
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Thanks for the link cefinow.
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#1841851 - 02/10/12 11:45 AM Re: Jacobs School, theory lesson on Bach fugue in C major [Re: cefinow]
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Wow, cefinow! That's such a cool presentation! I love Piano World University! Thanks for posting this! thumb

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