Hope you can help.

EDIT:
I replaced the mediafire link, so I hope now it's ok..

other link:
http://www.box.com/s/1qsdah6r144rou22620l

(Thanks to Damon)

easier if the link doesn't make us have to download....

I can help, dont host stuff on mediafire!
It tried to open a dating advert on me and party poker at the same time..
Not good.

I almost clicked on 'download' but stopped myself at the last second. Kinda glad I did.

I guess it's harder to post it on something that doesn't require a download? I figure it must be, or else nobody would ever do it this way. Not that I know, because I don't know how to do it at all.

what good website does not require a download, so not force me sign in? examples?
Anyway, this is just a midi file..
searching now for another site for re-upload..

You still have to download it, but I re-uploaded it to my box.net account. I don't know a site that streams midi for you. Box is used a lot around here and doesn't attach spam (that I know of) I don't recognize the piece. (plays with windows media player)


11.mid

Thanks!
I replace my link with yours. Hope people would help now.

I don't know what it is, but it would be my favorite video game music of all time.

-J

david will be chuffed to know that.

No problem. Where did you find that midi file if I may ask? People may be able to stream it from the original site with a plug-in.

I thought this file sounded peculiar. It isn't midi so I uploaded a stream-able version. HERE


Edit: Now Mark can fail to identify it.

Thanks for making me turn to my online dictionary, Mr. Englishman.

-J

chuffed

1    [chuhft] Show IPA
adjective British Informal .
delighted; pleased; satisfied.
Origin: 1855–60; see chuff2 , -ed2


2    [chuhft] Show IPA
adjective British Informal .
annoyed; displeased; disgruntled.


Okay, so which is it?

Personally, I'm chuffed that I wasted my time listening to it.

I guess you're going with number 2.

I figured you might assume that.......

Its actually number 1 for the english folk, chuffed= pleased. Example: "I wasnt pleased to get a bad midi file that my DAW said was not stable."

Or "I was extremely chuffed when she showed me her chough ( pronounced "chuff" but very, very different from) in this sense Chough is a bird, of the crow family rather than the female of our species.

Do not search google for the meaning of up the chuff. Or birds that like that, whether crow related or otherwise.

Having a dictionary that shows chuffed as being a negative like displeased or disgruntled shows how good at ebaying you are: you have bought a counterfeit copy.

I would be disgruntled except that I am a happy person , therefore I must be "gruntled" try looking that up in your fake book, you will enjoy the lack of an entry (or chuff)

Correct.

But I think we can say this: It's "Latin."
(Can't we?)


edit: I looked around a little for similar stuff and didn't find anything exactly like it, but from what I did find, I'm gonna double down: it's Cuban, and sort of a virtuoso salsa.

Well, it's not a foxtrot or a polka.

The file was sended to me by someone.
About your question - it won't help put link to the site where it can be found, since it's in Hebrew, and probably none of you would understand.

But hey, maybe I'll get the sheets to this stuff, I'm not sure but maybe I'll identify this.

Anyway, keep searching! and Mark - thank you for downloading the file. I guess your computer is fine? : )

Actually I didn't have to. Damon's link lets you just play it.

It sounds Klezmer to me, quite unusual in that it is just a piano piece, but it still has that Klezmer feel to it, and maybe that is why the site is in Hebrew.

Huh.....sounds like time for a paper on the links between Klezmer and Salsa.

I dont follow that one, please explain..?

Because this thing smacks of both. (Maybe you didn't see the previous few posts?)

I did read the previous posts, I allways do.
The music feels Klezmer and sounds like it has a Russian or eastern european folk song foundation, wouldnt this make it more likely to be Klezmer than salsa?
What have I missed?

Listen to any salsa and see if you don't see a big similarity to this thing. (I do, FWIW.)

Check the chord progression/bass that starts at exactly 36 secs.. thats so totally Ruskie ! ( Thinks Rostosky)

I'm not disagreeing with you. Just saying it also smacks of the other -- and I think more so. But I never disagreed with what you said.

No probs, I am so curious now, this is what happens!! lol. I will so totally not be happy till its been identified!! It would be hilarious if it was Klezmer, But, played by a cuban in cuba, maybe even one of castros family!

I wont sleep till I find out, I get obsessed with not knowing. It drives me nuts.

Please hebrew speakers find this and take a peep on the site where it came from and report back!!!

David: The new link that you gave isn't the best one that Damon gave -- it still requires an extra step or two.
I think you want this one.

We waded - and waited - through all this just to get that?

I thought the salsa thing was a joke about "fail to identify", but if so, it's being carrying further than I'd expect.

I don't hear anything remotely Latin American about it. Could just as easily be Balkan or Central Asian or .....

No surprise! As we've seen quite a bit before, we have different ears.


I absolutely don't agree. But of course that's my different ears speaking.

I thought you were joking Mark, and i just wasnt understandng the joke, being a Yorkshireman.
However, it would appear that you are serious and are hearing salsa.
may I ask for proof? I would except any salsa that sounds remotely like this even just three consecutive notes in the same rythym.

Or a photo of your ears to proove they exist in this universe.

Now that's funny!

FYI, this doesn't sound even remotely Latin to me. One of the hallmarks of Latin music is the use of a clave rhythm, which doesn't appear in any form whatsoever in the excerpt given.

It does sound Klezmer/Romanian/Hungarian Gypsy to me:

http://youtu.be/J5tIWKtE9JE?t=1m16s

Oh, and in that it's Gypsy inspired, it *does* have a bit of a Spanish flair to it, but most of what we think of as latin (Salsa, Bossa Nova, etc.) has a lot of Afro-Cuban rhythmic material in it.

No.

Apparently the joke's on us.

Seriously ??????

No problem!
It's a piano riff on a Cuban salsa thing.

It's strange. I'm going with the eastern Europe roots rather than the Cuban. It's also peculiar that what was claimed to be midi has hand claps and crowd noises. It seems more like a piano roll that a small group of people were enjoying. I think a transcription will show it to be unplayable by a single player.

Indeed Damon, if you listen very carefully, there is even a sound that sounds like a swanny whistle, not too far in, if this is not Klezmer, I will eat Marks ears. Dont worry though, it is apparent he doesn't actually need them.

Out of curiosity, my DAW would not accept the midi file itself, citing "corrupted" but it did open with windows media player.

Yes , seriously it will bug me till I know what the piece is called, I like to know definitive answers to such musical mysteries.

There is a good reason for that. It isn't a midi file despite the extension. You would think most modern software would be to figure that out. (windows media player did)

Do you know what typ of file it actually is Damon? and if it is possible to change the extension?

I do this with my camcorder file extensions to make them mpg, it allways throws a warning up but works just fine.

On such things, isn't it the other way around?
Although for all you know I could be a vegetarian.


C'mon.

No,it has to be me eating your ears if it isnt Klezma.
The reasoning is as follows:
I will need to imbibe the "pseudo salsa" into my system, that your ears are hearing.
In the same way as ancient warriors ate the ones they had defeated in battle to become imbued with their strength.
Its an ancient tradition amongst the descendents of the britains that refused to become "Romanised" or "latinised" after the Roman invasion.
Some say we still paint ourselves with woad, but this is just the natural palour of our skin due to the cold.

I think it's very possible it's an improvisation.

Well, since we're now talking about Romans and Mark_C, perhaps he could just do as his Shakespearean namesake requested, and lend you his ears!

Cheers!\

Oh no, Bruce! You have just mentioned "shakespeare" which will be a cue for the Disneyesque/Hollywood historians to say "It was the Earl of Oxford who wrote everything really" and then,
to proffer micky mouse sized ears for general consumption.

Edited to add: I have just been reliably informed that the wearing of Micky mouse ears is a sign of the "illuminati"

That's what I did when I heard the people noise, I changed the extension to mp3. That is the only difference between the two files I re-uploaded.

I doubt it was ever "played".

Actually I've been involved with that since childhood.
Which you'll probably say is exactly where it belongs.

Sure -- or something the player had made up, and, in the nature of many great composers as well as those who just never really play the notes the way they're trying ....it comes out a little different every time.

But the question still is, what style is it in?

And of course we already have the answer to that.

Can you post the link to the Hebrew website?

We can't, because David11 didn't tell us. He actually stated that it "wont help because it's in Hebrew"
I believe this was remiss of him. He failed to take into account that there are millions of folk who can speak, read and write in Hebrew.

You should ask him sleepy, you should say something like this: "Dear David11, I really want to find out what this is for you (dont say I need to know as well, just in case he doesnt like me) please could you give me the link to the hebrew website"

You could also mention that you are not being argumentative about folk not understanding Hebrew, and even explain that you can understand it. (Dont say you can if you actually cant though, because you will get found out)

Dont mention at this early juncture anything about salsa, its probably best not to cloud the issue.

You could finish off with something that will make David!! feel happy like this : "I will be really gratefull David11, and would just like to say in appreciation, that I am a huge fan of yours and have enjoyed reading all of you posts, and look forward to meeting you in the future, when I will buy us lunch"

If you find out anything from the website do let me know first?
I am the most curious out of everybody and will dance the lambada in appreciation, before gloating to Mark that I was correct about the Klezmer, or maybe dance the lambada whilst gloating, not sure yet.

....and what if you lose?

And also let me say -- which will surely sound like self-serving pre-emptive spin, and I can't swear it isn't.... .....Often with things like this, the person doesn't exactly know and can't say what it is that he was doing, and might even say 'it's nothing, it's just some stuff that I riffed out.' Which would leave it to us to decide what it takes after.

And of course, as has been said, we already have that answer.

Here's a thought. You could combine the mp3 with a picture using Windows movie maker, then upload it to your Youtube account. With any luck it will get flagged for copyright violation and you could pester Youtube for the claimant's email and ask him what it is.

Sneak!

I got the idea from Piano Dads "sweet victory" thread. I'm not normally sneaky.

"Tomorrow the world!"

Ona serious note just for curiosity,

I changed the file extension, shoved it in my DAW and with some multi band dynamics and EQ I can hear voices at two seperate points in the file.
Once near the end,, and one at the end.
the one at the end is simply exclaiming "Yay" ( thats my phonetic take on it)

I am working on pulling out the other section where there is something spoken by a female.
Its difficult to seperate it from the piano entirely and not helped by it being a female, her voice is close in the spectrum to what is being played.

I think I will revise this statement. Upon further review, I believe this was performed by two people on one piano and then sped up.

I know for a fact there are PW members fluent in Hebrew.

What do you make of that rising pitch in the background right after it changes key? It sounds similar to the whistle on my tea-kettle. I hear it elsewhere but not as pronounced.

Its a swanny whistle Damon, without any doubt, also known as a slide whistle or piston flute or jazz flute.

I sincerly believe that this is played with four hands,and the female voice in the background seems to be saying "thats big, you've crossed hands" But I would not swear to that just yet, as its still very faint even after Eqing the bottom end and some of the mid range of the piano out.

If, however, I am right at this preliminary stage, then the use of the word "big" in that statement may give something away, someone may recognise the use of that word in the given context.

I will keep on eqing and playing with filters and multi band dynamics to try and drag out the spoken words better... Its a sort of challenge now, and I feel like the guy in the film "Conversation"
Or "the conversation" cant quite remember!!!