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#1844303 - 02/14/12 07:27 AM Digital piano for classical music playing.
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So..after with long discussion i am confused..
Can anyone help me..Is roland fp-7 or roland fp4-f very close to real piano?

In other words how hard to contol music from your fingers in comparison with real acoustic piano?

Can i play serious classical music on these pianos?

Can they give me such range of dynamic,control e.t.c to reproduce small nuances,mood.

If can't..i'll prefer change music instument from keys to classical guitar...

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#1844414 - 02/14/12 10:50 AM Re: Digital piano for classical music playing. [Re: zeddead]
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Originally Posted By: zeddead
So..after with long discussion i am confused..
Can anyone help me..Is roland fp-7 or roland fp4-f very close to real piano?


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Yes it is. How close would be hard to measure and entirely subjective to the tastes and notions of each individual player.

[quote]In other words how hard to contol music from your fingers in comparison with real acoustic piano?


It's not harder to control; it's that the range of timbres and the extent of the dynamic range are somewhat less.

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Can i play serious classical music on these pianos?
Yes you can. Examples are all over You Tube.

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Can they give me such range of dynamic,control e.t.c to reproduce small nuances,mood.


This is the same answer as the one about control a few lines up.

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If can't..i'll prefer change music instument from keys to classical guitar...


That's a choice you'll have to make but you'll need to be able to play to to have sufficient information to make an informed choice. There are people who are playing and enjoying serious classical music on digitals. They are probably not on their way to be concertizing performing artists but they are making the music. On the other hand, for the price of pretty good starter upright you can get a professional grade concert level acoustic guitar.

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#1845118 - 02/15/12 09:08 AM Re: Digital piano for classical music playing. [Re: zeddead]
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I own the Roland FP-7, and while I like it as a digital, I always feel as if I'm playing on a toy piano. Since I'm accustomed to playing on grand pianos, the feel, responsiveness, and sound is very different. Part of the difference has to do with the fact that with an acoustic instrument, the entire thing vibrates when you make sound, whereas on a digital it's mainly the speakers that vibrate so the sound is directional to a point. This lack of responsiveness felt through the fingers makes it feel "dead" for lack of a better word on the digitals in general. For this reason, I will always choose a good acoustic piano over a good digital, all other things begin equal. However, a good digital has some advantages like portability, size, use of headphones for late-night practice or not disturbing the neighbors, recording ease directly to a computer, things like that. If those are important to you, then by all means invest in a digital.

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If can't..i'll prefer change music instument from keys to classical guitar...

I do not understand what this ultimatum means. If you want to play on a digital, then do so. Yes you can play classical music, but at an advanced level of playing, you will prefer playing on an acoustic grand. Are you advanced? If so, why would you even want to give up all the work you put into it and switch to a completely different instrument? And if not, you have a long way to go, so why worry about that now? Most people who pursue piano playing will not have the same instrument their entire lives. People outgrow instruments and upgrade al the time. This may happen to you. Even in guitar.
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#1845409 - 02/15/12 04:02 PM Re: Digital piano for classical music playing. [Re: zeddead]
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To build basic skills a quality digital will be fine. Set the "touch" function to it's hardest/firmest setting to make it feel more like a real piano. The main issue I find with students who practice on a digital is that they don't feel for the bottom of the keys - they are more likely to skim across the surface.

For experienced players it is more about accoustic pianos carrying the spirit and soul of the music being played, than issues in learning the basics of playing the instrument (as long as it's a quality digital - entry level keyboards are a bit yucky!). I would always reccommend an accoustic instrument over a digital, but if it's a matter of learning or not learning than I would suggest learning on a digital over quitting! Especially if you prefer the idea of learning piano over the guitar.
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#1845842 - 02/16/12 07:13 AM Re: Digital piano for classical music playing. [Re: Beth_Frances]
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"To build basic skills a quality digital will be fine. Set the "touch" function to it's hardest/firmest setting to make it feel more like a real piano"


I think i'am already have basic skills after 7 years of playing on piano in musical school.

Now a i can't afford real acoustic piano..and i am affraid that digital piano only suitable for melody teaching:(
and i am afraid that long playing on digitals is something like expirience on another instrument that can't be applied on real acoustic piano later.

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#1845846 - 02/16/12 07:19 AM Re: Digital piano for classical music playing. [Re: zeddead]
zeddead Offline
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Registered: 03/09/11
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I do not understand what this ultimatum means. If you want to play on a digital, then do so. Yes you can play classical music, but at an advanced level of playing, you will prefer playing on an acoustic grand. Are you advanced? If so, why would you even want to give up all the work you put into it and switch to a completely different instrument?



I want feel controll over instrument. If digital piano can't be applied for developing serious skills..maybe i can start on completely different instrument..but real instrument acoustic guitar for example..


I love that feeling on acoustic when the sound color depends on my fingers:(

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#1846052 - 02/16/12 12:44 PM Re: Digital piano for classical music playing. [Re: zeddead]
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Registered: 04/15/09
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A digital piano will not play like a quality acoustic grand piano, period. If you absolutely have to have that then a digital is not for you.

If you do not wish to play piano unless you can play on a quality acoustic grand and you cannot afford a quality acoustic grand then playing piano is not for you.

However, I tend to think that there are many virtuso pianists who did not start playing on quality acoustic grand pianos and they were able to survive. I think if you try some quality Digital pianos and find one that you like, you may survive also.

On the other hand, if you are just tired of playing piano and wish to find a reason to quit and start playing a different instrument .... go ahead.





Edited by dmd (02/16/12 12:45 PM)
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#1847100 - 02/18/12 01:11 AM Re: Digital piano for classical music playing. [Re: Beth_Frances]
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Registered: 02/16/12
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Loc: uk
Originally Posted By: Beth_Frances
To build basic skills a quality digital will be fine. Set the "touch" function to it's hardest/firmest setting to make it feel more like a real piano. The main issue I find with students who practice on a digital is that they don't feel for the bottom of the keys - they are more likely to skim across the surface.

For experienced players it is more about accoustic pianos carrying the spirit and soul of the music being played, than issues in learning the basics of playing the instrument (as long as it's a quality digital - entry level keyboards are a bit yucky!). I would always reccommend an accoustic instrument over a digital, but if it's a matter of learning or not learning than I would suggest learning on a digital over quitting! Especially if you prefer the idea of learning piano over the guitar.



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