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#1843825 - 02/13/12 01:06 PM Complete Works of Beethoven
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Do any of you have the complete works of Beethoven? A few years ago, while Borders was still around, they were selling that collection and I picked one up.

Don't know where you can buy them nowadays, although I suppose they sell them on the internet.

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#1843828 - 02/13/12 01:12 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: composer123]
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How "complete" is this collection?

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#1843833 - 02/13/12 01:14 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: BruceD]
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I assume everything that has an opus number.

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#1843834 - 02/13/12 01:15 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: composer123]
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Also, what is it? Sheet music, recordings?
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#1843837 - 02/13/12 01:17 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: BDB]
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Recordings.

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#1843842 - 02/13/12 01:28 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: composer123]
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Brilliant Classics has been putting out several complete editions.

http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=570976
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#1843880 - 02/13/12 02:39 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: Hank Drake]
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That collection includes Sir Neville Marriner. Must be a good collection.

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#1844003 - 02/13/12 05:21 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: composer123]
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I've got a relatively complete collection of Bach, Mozart and Beethoven. I didn't "buy" it though. smile
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#1844040 - 02/13/12 06:04 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: composer123]
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Originally Posted By: composer123
I assume everything that has an opus number.


I don't understand. You said you picked one up, but you assume it includes everything that has an opus number?

I have the complete Beethoven, save the songs. Various recordings I've picked up over the years. Now as far as piano works are concerned there's Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Brahms, Chopin, Debussy, Faure, Gershwin, Mendelssohn, Prokofiev, Rach, Ravel, Schubert, Schumann...most of Haydn, Liszt, Rameau, Couperin, Handel. I have a ton of recordings. Now scores...that's another story and I couldn't begin to count.
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#1844041 - 02/13/12 06:05 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: Jolteon]
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Originally Posted By: Jolteon
I've got a relatively complete collection of Bach, Mozart and Beethoven. I didn't "buy" it though. smile


You have the complete Bach? That's a ton of music.
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#1844044 - 02/13/12 06:13 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: stores]
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It says "complete works" on the box in English and Gesamtwerk in German. Have you discovered an unknown Beethoven piece that does not have an opus number? Then it probably wouldn't include that piece.

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#1844050 - 02/13/12 06:19 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: composer123]
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It says "complete works" on the box in English and Gesamtwerk in German. Have you discovered an unknown Beethoven piece that does not have an opus number? Then it probably wouldn't include that piece.


The complete Beethoven would include not only Opus numbers but WoO numbers as well. There are also Anhang numbers and H. numbers, though these latter are not usually included in such a set.
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#1844051 - 02/13/12 06:19 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: composer123]
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Originally Posted By: composer123
It says "complete works" on the box in English and Gesamtwerk in German. Have you discovered an unknown Beethoven piece that does not have an opus number? Then it probably wouldn't include that piece.


There are lots of pieces by Beethoven with no opus numbers, but they are well known.

And how come you don't have the songs, stores? "Adelaide" is one of my favorite songs I've ever heard so far! smile
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#1844055 - 02/13/12 06:25 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: stores]
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I haven't investigated different scholarly systems of classification. Do you know a specific piece that I would not have in my collection?

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#1844063 - 02/13/12 06:42 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: composer123]
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#1844066 - 02/13/12 06:46 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: Orange Soda King]
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I know with Dvorak, for example, that his ninth symphony used to be classified as his fifth. I wish the scholars could figure these things out.

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#1844647 - 02/14/12 05:25 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: composer123]
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If only opus numbers are included, Für Elise would be out. This would not make sense. But is that possible ? No, it's too famous, it must be included.

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#1844662 - 02/14/12 05:51 PM Re: Complete Works of Beethoven [Re: Orange Soda King]
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"Adelaide" is one of my favorite songs I've ever heard so far! smile

It is lovely, isn't it? - and the accompaniment is pleasingly easy. (Unlike Liszt's rather over-the-top transcription.)
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