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#1848794 - 02/21/12 12:14 AM Looking for a Theory Book
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I don't know if such a book exists... I'm looking for something for my almost 9 year old son to study himself, with a little help. He composes his own music and I think it's very good for a kid his age, but I want him to learn more. He's learned the basic stuff that comes along with studying the piano. Is there any great book like this out there? Maybe a workbook series or something?
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#1848942 - 02/21/12 08:20 AM Re: Looking for a Theory Book [Re: christineka]
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I bought a copy of "Composing Music: A New Approach" (by William Russo) based on a recommendation from another forum. I haven't had a chance to work with it yet, but I thought I'd pass along the recommendation.
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#1848953 - 02/21/12 08:34 AM Re: Looking for a Theory Book [Re: christineka]
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It sounds like you're looking more for a book on composing than theory, but if you want theory to help him with writing down his ideas, then I highly recommend Keith Snells' Fundamentals of Piano Theory series.

For composition, there are books like Kevin Olson Music By Me series. However I find that composition is something that is much better learned from a teacher. Does your son currently take piano lessons? Would his teacher be able to help him out with his compositions, or perhaps recommend a teacher?
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#1848991 - 02/21/12 09:57 AM Re: Looking for a Theory Book [Re: Morodiene]
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Originally Posted By: Morodiene
For composition, there are books like Kevin Olson Music By Me series. However I find that composition is something that is much better learned from a teacher. Does your son currently take piano lessons? Would his teacher be able to help him out with his compositions, or perhaps recommend a teacher?


Is there a difference between theory and composition? I thought that theory would build up to the essentials of composition. My husband, while not a composer is very musical and can make some amazing arrangements. My son has a very good teacher who can teach all about theory, but she doesn't compose. She has several friends on staff at the university, though. One of them wants to meet my son. The teacher mentioned last lesson that another faculty member composes and might have some ideas on how to teach my son composition. This all sounds very expensive! I didn't plan to have such a musical child!
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#1849000 - 02/21/12 10:07 AM Re: Looking for a Theory Book [Re: christineka]
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Yes, there is a difference. Theory is concepts, composition is application. There are plenty of teachers who can teach both. Sounds like you need to find one. Or perhaps he can work on compositions with a college student.
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#1849514 - 02/22/12 08:59 AM Re: Looking for a Theory Book [Re: christineka]
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Theory is more about music notation and analyzing musical structure. Composition is about creating ideas, development of those ideas, and eventually writing those ideas down. The writing down part is where the theory would help in composing, but theory itself will not help a composer learn to develop ideas. This is really where a teacher comes into play.

I highly recommend getting a comp teacher. Unlike piano, however, it's not necessary to have weekly lessons in composition although you can. See about every other week.
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#1850026 - 02/23/12 07:45 AM Re: Looking for a Theory Book [Re: christineka]
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The little book of music theory is pocket size and has useful information. It's great because it covers all the basics which will help him with his songwriting.

Another thing to get him to do is to work out the family of chords. This is a great tool for songwriters, as it will tell you the major and minor chords that work well together.

I have a free sheet if you want it, then PM me.

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#1857573 - 03/07/12 12:28 AM Re: Looking for a Theory Book [Re: christineka]
christineka Offline
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Thanks for the suggestion of finding a theory/composition teacher. I happened to run across one with good credentials while I was looking through piano ads. (I didn't know any such teacher existed for non-college students.) Once we sell our "spare" house, we'll try out this new teacher. (I hope the house sells fast!)
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