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#1857644 - 03/07/12 05:04 AM Chromatic scales , technique and stuff
pianisimo1 Offline
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so there is a basic way to play chromatic scale (i.e. playing every note) with the fingering of 1 3 1 3 1 2 etc.
(NOTE: in this post I start the fingering from middle C)

Let's say I want to do that with my left hand. I found out that fingering is basically the same, for ascending 1 3 1 3 2 1
for descending : 1 2 3 1 3..
and while with my right hand I do have a decent speed, I can't playing it in the same speed with my left hand (nor ascending or descending). How can I gain some speed with my LH, playing the "regular" chromatic scale?

More interesting stuff:
check Valentina in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwc-nmyPm4I
she does there some intersting scales. There is also way to play chromatic scale, but not in the usual method..
take this for example: C C# D Eb C#(<) D Eb E D(<)
(< means you go back the keyboard and play the note again)
In words it means you play the chromatic scale, but go back for every 4 notes you play, two steps back.

You can think the same pattern for descending also, where I find it way harder. even more harder done with the left hand.
My question is: what is the proper fingering for this kind of scale (I think this is the word..) ? some exercises / tipes would be great.

here is another example just came out to me:
(Descending, LEFT HAND: )
A Ab G F# Ab(>) G F# F G(>) F# F E .. again the '<' (next to Ab for example) means you repeat that note.
This is one of the things I really wish to know.. may someone finger this for me?

Thanks for reading, I hope I made my point clearly.


Edited by pianisimo1 (03/07/12 05:14 AM)

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#1857664 - 03/07/12 07:31 AM Re: Chromatic scales , technique and stuff [Re: pianisimo1]
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Speed in pieces usually comes from slow practise. Speed in scales usually comes from accurate practise and very short bursts of speed involving one or two thumb crossings at a time.

The usual fingering from D (rh rising, lh falling) is 13 123 13 13 123
Slightly faster but using a weaker finger is 123 1234 123 1234 123 1234 123
Faster still is 'Liszt' fingering (starting on e rh rising and c lh falling) 123 1234 12345 123 1234 12345

Get it even in time and tone before increasing the speed a notch.

As far as the patterns in La Campanella are concerned it looks like you're talking about bar 80. Personally I'd worry about that when you've get the first 79 sorted!
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#1857693 - 03/07/12 09:04 AM Re: Chromatic scales , technique and stuff [Re: pianisimo1]
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Thanks!
hmm, I don't learn La campanella (yet haha). I just brought it as an example.
I still didn't figured how to finger this:
Originally Posted By: pianisimo1

(Descending, LEFT HAND: )
A Ab G F# Ab(>) G F# F G(>) F# F E .. again the '<' (next to Ab for example) means you repeat that note.

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#1858429 - 03/08/12 01:55 PM Re: Chromatic scales , technique and stuff [Re: pianisimo1]
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no body has an idea how to finger this ? ^
A Ab G F# Ab(>) G F# F G(>) F# F E

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#1858463 - 03/08/12 02:54 PM Re: Chromatic scales , technique and stuff [Re: pianisimo1]
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This is simple fingering with no consideration for phrasing or tempo:-
A Ab G F# Ab G F# F G F# F E
1 3 1 3 2 1 3 1 2 3 1 2

Does that work for you?


Edit: You might copy and paste that to Notepad with a fixed pitch font!


Edited by zrtf90 (03/08/12 02:55 PM)
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#1858519 - 03/08/12 04:48 PM Re: Chromatic scales , technique and stuff [Re: zrtf90]
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Originally Posted By: zrtf90
This is simple fingering with no consideration for phrasing or tempo:-
A Ab G F# Ab G F# F G F# F E
1 3 1 3 2 1 3 1 2 3 1 2

Does that work for you?


Edit: You might copy and paste that to Notepad with a fixed pitch font!


Here's a better fingering in my opinion. It will make your chromatic scales faster.



Edited by Orange Soda King (03/08/12 04:50 PM)

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