Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
Latest Pianoteq add-on instrument: U4 upright piano
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
PianoSupplies.com (150)
Piano Accessories Music Related Gifts Piano Tuning Equipment Piano Moving Equipment
We now offer Gift Certificates in our online store!
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Piano
Quick Links to Useful Stuff
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano Accessories
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#1868402 - 03/25/12 07:42 PM Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online
Larry Fine Offline
Full Member

Registered: 07/06/06
Posts: 32
Loc: Boston, MA
The Spring 2012 issue of Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyer is now online at www.PianoBuyer.com . The print version will be available in about ten days.

In addition to the usual articles, brand profiles, and prices, this issue contains three feature articles: a photo essay by Martha Taylor on "Upright Cabinet Styles in American Piano Manufacturing, 1880-1930," a review by Owen Lovell on "The New Feurich Pianos," and an article by Russ Vitt on "Moving the Family Piano."

I am always looking for writers, reviewers, and suggestions of topics to write about; and for more Piano-Buying Stories (see website). Contact me if you have ideas.

Larry Fine
_________________________
Publisher and Editor, Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyer
and Author, The Piano Book

Top
(ads 568) Hailun Pianos

 

#1868405 - 03/25/12 07:51 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Larry Fine]
Steve Cohen Online   content
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 10479
Loc: Maryland/DC/No. VA
For those who don't know, Owen Lovell is our very own Terminaldegree.
_________________________
Piano Industry Consultant- http://www.linkedin.com/pub/steve-cohen/6/b92/b80

Consultant & Contributing Editor - Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyer

Jasons Music
Maryland/DC/No. VA
Since 1937.

www.jasonsmusic.com
My postings, unless stated otherwise, are my personal opinions, not those of my clients.

Top
#1868434 - 03/25/12 08:50 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Larry Fine]
Rickster Online   content


Registered: 03/25/06
Posts: 8534
Loc: Georgia, USA
I did a quick skim of the latest edition of the "Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyer", online version, and found it very informative and interesting.

Thanks for posting!

Rick
_________________________
Piano enthusiast and amateur musician: "Treat others the way you would like to be treated". Yamaha C7. YouTube Channel

Top
#1868435 - 03/25/12 08:51 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Larry Fine]
Glenn Treibitz Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 01/10/05
Posts: 598
Loc: Los Angeles/Burbank
Larry,

Nice to see the new edition out.

There are a few items in the product/ pricing that is incorrect.

First Schulze Pollmann raised their prices to us 30 to 40% on verticals!!!! The Piano Buyer pricing isn't even close to the current reality of the pricing. I believe their new pricing went into effect the end of 2011.

Second the Young Chang section does not include the Korean Young Chang product. Young Chang is still manufacturing YP product in Korea and this is not reflected in the book. There are also a great many Korean non YP Young Chang pianos on dealer floors and in Young Changs's warehouses that now have no rating in the book. I think this could be confusing to consumers considering purchase of those pianos.
_________________________
Glenn Treibitz

Hollywood Piano Co. - Est.1928
http://www.hollywoodpiano.com
http://www.facebook.com/HollywoodPiano

1800 MY-PIANO

Grotrian, Mason&Hamlin, Estonia,Schulze Pollmann,Albert Weber,Baldwin,Brodmann,
Ritmuller,Weber,Hardman,Roland,Kurzweil, Used Steinway,Yamaha,Kawai

Top
#1868456 - 03/25/12 09:24 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Larry Fine]
Rich Galassini Online   content
9000 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/28/01
Posts: 9223
Loc: Philadelphia/South Jersey
Glenn,

Larry gets all of his product information straight from the manufacturer or distributor. While typos. are always possible, more often these things are as a result of the source really not taking this publication seriously.

At least this has been the norm. in the past when these mistakes have happened.

Also, thanks for the guidance the other day. I appreciated your Los Angelos help. smile
_________________________
Rich Galassini
Cunningham Piano Co.
Phila, Pa.
Dir. Line (215) 991-0834
rich@cunninghampiano.com
Get Cunningham Piano Email Updates

Top
#1868477 - 03/25/12 10:22 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Larry Fine]
Mike Carr Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/20/09
Posts: 714
Loc: BANNED
Larry,

On your Hailun profile page you describe a full warranty:

"Warranty: 15 years, parts and labor, transferable to future owners within the warranty period."

Hailun’s warranty is limited and only fully transfers to the first purchaser from the original owner, not all future or successive owners within the warranty period:

"When you decide to sell your Hailun piano, the limited full fifteen year warranty is transferable to the purchaser from the original owner."


Mike
_________________________
smoke 'em if you got 'em

Top
#1868481 - 03/25/12 10:32 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Larry Fine]
Rich Galassini Online   content
9000 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/28/01
Posts: 9223
Loc: Philadelphia/South Jersey
Dear Mike,

See my post above yours.
_________________________
Rich Galassini
Cunningham Piano Co.
Phila, Pa.
Dir. Line (215) 991-0834
rich@cunninghampiano.com
Get Cunningham Piano Email Updates

Top
#1868482 - 03/25/12 10:41 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Rich Galassini]
Mike Carr Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/20/09
Posts: 714
Loc: BANNED
Rich,

"Dear Mike"? No need to be so formal between, er, friends.

No excuses now, though. He might want to change it. It's probably time. It's been in a number of issues, since fall of 2009.

Mike
_________________________
smoke 'em if you got 'em

Top
#1868500 - 03/25/12 11:41 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Larry Fine]
RickG1 Offline
Full Member

Registered: 12/09/10
Posts: 304
Loc: TX
That article on Upright pianos is really informative.
Thanks, Larry, for including it this time.
_________________________
Mason-Hamlin "A"
Steinway "B"
Baldwin console

Top
#1868863 - 03/26/12 04:54 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Glenn Treibitz]
Larry Fine Offline
Full Member

Registered: 07/06/06
Posts: 32
Loc: Boston, MA
Glenn:

I contact each manufacturer or distributor twice a year to update price and other information. The company that distributes Schulze Pollmann generally is either non-responsive or says that nothing has changed. This time they were non-responsive. Although I go to great lengths to obtain accurate information, there is only so much I can do, given that I have 60 or more brands to worry about and only a short time after the NAMM show to put out a 300-page publication. If you believe that the distributor should care enough to send me up-to-date information, I suggest you contact them and let them know that it matters to you.

As for Young Chang, they tell me that the YP models are only being made now under the Albert Weber name.

It's always a problem, when models change, to know how long to continue to run information about the older models, given that for some time there will continue to be older models on the sales floor. I usually take my cues about this from the manufacturer or distributor, as they are in the best position to know how much inventory is out there and what their dealers will want me to print. In this case, a decision was made by Young Chang at the highest level to make a clean break from the older models. They gave me price information only for the new models, and asked me to mention the older ones only minimally. I do mention the older models in the brand profile, and you can send customers to the Archive section of the Piano Buyer website to look up ratings in past issues.

Larry Fine
_________________________
Publisher and Editor, Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyer
and Author, The Piano Book

Top
#1868866 - 03/26/12 04:57 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Mike Carr]
Larry Fine Offline
Full Member

Registered: 07/06/06
Posts: 32
Loc: Boston, MA
The distributors always have an opportunity to check my profiles for accuracy before publication, and the Hailun distributor has never asked me to change this. I will check on it and make the change if appropriate. Thanks for alerting me.

Larry Fine
_________________________
Publisher and Editor, Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyer
and Author, The Piano Book

Top
#1868877 - 03/26/12 05:25 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Larry Fine]
sgao Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/21/12
Posts: 19
Larry & all, great work again!

Once the new edition is out, it seems not possible to get the old pricing information. The searchable database only has the latest data, and the pricing pages disappeared, e.g. http://www.pianobuyer.com/fall11/195.html This is probably intentional, but is there any way (like in some kind of archive) to get at the old data for comparison purposes?

I was also wondering about the Young Chang YP/PG grands. Thanks for the explanation.

I'm seriously considering a Hailun 198. I see that its SMP received a 30% raise from around $22K to $28K+. Wow! (Or did I mis-remember the fall-11 price? Can't verify it.) If this increase is real, when will buyers expect to see such a change at the dealers?

Top
#1868912 - 03/26/12 06:51 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Larry Fine]
Wound up Offline
Full Member

Registered: 01/04/12
Posts: 65
If SP did not respond I would think it would be responsible to note when you got your price.. No offense but if you are making a publication like this it seems like you might have do do a better job gathering the info -- It seems like reaching out a couple of times is not working-- If they do not respond that hardly makes it right to put serious errors in the book...

Top
#1868948 - 03/26/12 07:47 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Larry Fine]
BoseEric Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/08/06
Posts: 731
Loc: Fairfield County, CT
Wow, Wound Up...you make it sound so easy.
_________________________
RPT. In the business: Feurich pianos, Neupert harpsichords, Hidrau benches, piano technician

Top
#1869326 - 03/27/12 04:32 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Larry Fine]
Mike Carr Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/20/09
Posts: 714
Loc: BANNED
Originally Posted By: Larry Fine
The distributors always have an opportunity to check my profiles for accuracy before publication, and the Hailun distributor has never asked me to change this. I will check on it and make the change if appropriate. Thanks for alerting me.

Larry Fine



Thanks, Larry.


Mike
_________________________
smoke 'em if you got 'em

Top
#1871110 - 03/30/12 05:27 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Larry Fine]
pianoloverus Online   content
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/29/01
Posts: 19343
Loc: New York City
As someone who loves many kinds of case styling I enjoyed the article on Upright Cabinet Styles and the Piano as Art pictures.

Top
#1871121 - 03/30/12 05:51 PM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Larry Fine]
rocket88 Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/04/06
Posts: 3160
I would like to say "thanks" to Larry Fine and his contributors for an invaluable resource.
_________________________
Music teacher and piano player.

Top
#1871277 - 03/31/12 01:53 AM Re: Spring 2012 Piano Buyer Now Online [Re: Larry Fine]
Wound up Offline
Full Member

Registered: 01/04/12
Posts: 65
Bose eric, I think it would be easy to note the last time you received info. Ie: you would note on the few that didn't update when the info was from. I didn't mean to be so critical

Top

Moderator:  Ken Knapp, Piano World, Rickster 
What's Hot!!
HOW TO POST PICTURES on the Piano Forums
-------------------
Sharing is Caring!
About the Buttons
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
Interesting books about the piano, pianists, piano history, biographies, memoirs and more!
(ad) HAILUN Pianos
Hailun Pianos - Click for More
ad (Casio)
Celviano by Casio Rebate
Ad (Seiler/Knabe)
Knabe Pianos
Sheet Music
(PW is an affiliate)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Mason & Hamlin Opinions
by Hunt
09/19/14 03:23 PM
contacting with someone of VI Labs
by imyself
09/19/14 03:02 PM
My Initial Thoughts on Left/Right Hand Independence
by Visalia
09/19/14 01:23 PM
Questions regarding Schafer and Sons VS52
by Tankster911
09/19/14 12:42 PM
Transcribe tune
by pianomise
09/19/14 12:16 PM
Who's Online
149 registered (accordeur, 36251, ajames, allakart, 255, 36 invisible), 1507 Guests and 15 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
76251 Members
42 Forums
157630 Topics
2315280 Posts

Max Online: 15252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
(ads by Google)

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2014 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission