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#1872621 - 04/02/12 03:14 PM Buy new or used digital paino
J3an Offline
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Registered: 11/21/11
Posts: 4
Loc: Mtl, Qc
Good Afternoon!

I've been browsing these forums for awhile. I'd first like to thank everyone for their valuable time. Your help is greatly appreciated and i don't mind anyone's bias for one brand or another.

So heres my question. Would you consider a used digital piano?

After looking at many new offerings from Casio, Yamaha and Roland and used models from these and techics; i'm now tempted to buy an older top of the line Technics. These can be had for a fraction of a new DP.

In the broader sense, is there much risk in buying a used DP (i.e whats your experience with repairs older DP's?)?

Whats the difference between thier technology ( 64 vs 192 polyphony) (USB Midi or Cable and interface)(PHA3 hammers/action etc.)

regards,

ps. the model im looking at is technics pr-53 for 500$ can.

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#1872624 - 04/02/12 03:19 PM Re: Buy new or used digital paino [Re: J3an]
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with so fast moving technology I would not buy used DP unless it is relatively new, or I was desperate... wink

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#1872632 - 04/02/12 03:30 PM Re: Buy new or used digital paino [Re: J3an]
ando Online   content
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There's no chance of getting replacement parts for a Technics DP. They stopped making making instruments at least 10 years ago and they don't even exist as a brand anymore. Technology is too old. $500 is way too much money too. You could get something a lot better and newer for $500.

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#1872670 - 04/02/12 04:15 PM Re: Buy new or used digital paino [Re: J3an]
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Until you become infected with Gear Acquisition Syndrome, I'd stay away from any defunct brands (and even then, you're usually looking for some unique sound). With your budget, new is certainly the safer route, and the new choices are remarkably nice considering. While the build quality of the Technics is very interesting, all of the technology is surpassed and even the action behaves less realistically even if it feels solid.
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#1872708 - 04/02/12 05:27 PM Re: Buy new or used digital paino [Re: J3an]
J3an Offline
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I left a message at the service section of my local music stores.

I'd like to confirm that parts are unavailable or discontinued.

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#1872724 - 04/02/12 05:55 PM Re: Buy new or used digital paino [Re: J3an]
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Originally Posted By: J3an
I left a message at the service section of my local music stores.

I'd like to confirm that parts are unavailable or discontinued.


But whats the point? Its old equipment and the technology is outdated. Why spend $500 on that when you could get something newer????

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#1872729 - 04/02/12 06:08 PM Re: Buy new or used digital paino [Re: J3an]
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I agree with most here; aim for a new piano instead as it sounds very expensive for such an old DP. The Yamaha P155 is often considered a great piano at a great price point. But it costs $1K so if you can stretch your budget, or save up, that might be something for you to look into.
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#1872730 - 04/02/12 06:10 PM Re: Buy new or used digital paino [Re: J3an]
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So, the question is, would I consider buying a used keyboard?

Short answer, no.

I learned my lesson years ago. I buy new and sell after three, four or five years so I get the best price. I take that money and buy the latest. This works for me but then money isn't a major consideration.
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#1872736 - 04/02/12 06:19 PM Re: Buy new or used digital paino [Re: J3an]
J3an Offline
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Registered: 11/21/11
Posts: 4
Loc: Mtl, Qc
Well, thats a good question. Let me elaborate:

i'm a beginner and i don't currently require all the functionality. The top criterion of a beginners piano are:

-The action (solid and reliable)
-The sound (for earphones or lower volumes)

Id buy a real piano but i dont have the space at home. If it can be repaired should it break, how is it inadequate?

Additionally, As it was stated before by piano shark and Ando: technology evolves at a fast pace. Why buy something i can't use? I'll wait till i master the basics and purchase *later* what is *even better*.

The closest competitor i found was a casio px-130. Though in Canada its still almost 600$ excluding taxes (15%). Any suggestions?

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#1872743 - 04/02/12 06:28 PM Re: Buy new or used digital paino [Re: Amaruk]
J3an Offline
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Registered: 11/21/11
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Loc: Mtl, Qc
Thanks, i'll consider this an option. 1000$ isn't such a big gap. I'm just trying to get good value for what i'm trying to do
learn: basic piano playing skills.

More to follow once i've researched this price point a bit more.

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#1872745 - 04/02/12 06:30 PM Re: Buy new or used digital paino [Re: J3an]
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Registered: 03/27/12
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Originally Posted By: J3an

Additionally, As it was stated before by piano shark and Ando: technology evolves at a fast pace. Why buy something i can't use? I'll wait till i master the basics and purchase *later* what is *even better*.

The closest competitor i found was a casio px-130. Though in Canada its still almost 600$ excluding taxes (15%). Any suggestions?


What do you mean something you can't use? with DP we're talking mainly about action and piano sound and I was referring to these technologies which you'll definitely use, especially for a beginner when action is very important IMO.

p.s.
I've seen some new casio privia with excellent hammer action on sale in GC once for 350$...

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#1872778 - 04/02/12 07:51 PM Re: Buy new or used digital paino [Re: piano_shark]
PianoWorksATL Offline
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Registered: 09/19/09
Posts: 2825
Loc: Atlanta, GA
Originally Posted By: J3an
Well, thats a good question. Let me elaborate:

i'm a beginner and i don't currently require all the functionality. The top criterion of a beginners piano are:

-The action (solid and reliable)
-The sound (for earphones or lower volumes)

Id buy a real piano but i dont have the space at home. If it can be repaired should it break, how is it inadequate?

Additionally, As it was stated before by piano shark and Ando: technology evolves at a fast pace. Why buy something i can't use? I'll wait till i master the basics and purchase *later* what is *even better*.

The closest competitor i found was a casio px-130. Though in Canada its still almost 600$ excluding taxes (15%). Any suggestions?
The top criteria of a digital piano is its ability to simulate a real piano. The majority of the newer technology relates to 3 things: improved simulation of action, improved simulation of sound, lower cost thru improved manufacturing efficiency. These are the things you can use and directly benefit you.

The Technics definitely had nicer speakers, cabinet & screen, but it is not likely to be a better piano simulation.
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p.s.
I've seen some new casio privia with excellent hammer action on sale in GC once for 350$...
I don't think the CDP-100 or 120 is a Privia as it definitely is a lower level product maintained exclusively for GC and its online operations. The CDP-120 usually $399, but I've seen $350 on the outgoing CDP-100 inventory. It's an attractive price for older Casio technology but new warranty.
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#1872825 - 04/02/12 09:55 PM Re: Buy new or used digital paino [Re: J3an]
ZoeCalgary Offline
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Registered: 05/01/11
Posts: 748
Loc: Calgary Alberta
Hi. I wouldn't buy a used DP that is not in production anymore as it may be difficult if not impossible to repair. Unless you only pay $100 or so I think you are throwing away good money that can get you something much more recent with better sounds and action as the above posters have said.

How about a used DP that is recent and highly respected? I bought a used P155 from a music store for $699. I got a 30% off the price of a new one, 30 day full return option, and a 1 year warranty. I've been really happy. I missed out on a similar buy of a used P155 from a private seller just weeks before. I think there is potential to save some money buying used but it should be a well respected brand, and a good model for that brand I think. Of course, the condition it is in, how it was used, and how you like it now is important too.

I would say keep looking for other options. Good deals on good dp's do pop up once in awhile. I missed 2 chances to get a Korg SP250 for $350. This DP has been around for awhile and is still selling new for $800 but I really liked the sound, and the action on this one and would have loved to have one for $350.
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#1872840 - 04/02/12 10:20 PM Re: Buy new or used digital paino [Re: J3an]
Gomer Offline
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Registered: 09/14/11
Posts: 132
General comment: If it is current generation, I'd be fine recommending a good condition used. A gen older, then it would be dependent on the DP and how big of a price cut and where it fits with your budget.

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