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Hi Sheraz! I am sure the looks of the Kawai CS6 will impress your wife

No. You've been suckered. These mini grands look pathetic. OK IMHO. I'm guessing your wife doesn't play? What's that got to do with it? Everything.

But actually, I'm a bit serious here. The better high end upright DP's look more realistic and appealing than the mini grand DP's, which look like they've had surgery. OK IMHO again.

actually avantgrand N3 looks pretty good like a regular baby grand but other dgp I agree look bad.

I've thought of buying one of the Roland digital mini grands to move into a restaurant.



http://www.rolandus.com/products/productlist.php?ParentId=21

The brochures say CLP465GP is actually the CLP430 in grand cabinet. It is not the 440. 440 has several aspects upgraded. String resonance, ivory keytops, etc.

Being in mini grand cabinet, the speakers are bigger of course.

Also, the 430, although at entry level, has decent sounds.

It has the new RGE tone generator. Not sure, whether this is the same old AWM2, with a re-name, though.

Like some have suggested, if you really need good sounds, maybe you can hook up to a virtual piano using a laptop.

are you moving to restaurant?

So I paid a visit to a local store to try Yamaha CLP465GP. I also tried N3. Definitely N3 looks more like a grand piano and has great key action and also sounds amazing. CLP465GP didn't have that bad of key action and sounded ok. I also discussed about the differences of CLP465GP and other CLP models that are not mini grand. The sales person was very honest about it and told me that I'm paying good money for the look. The amps are a little stronger then previous versions but not a huge difference and key action was the same. He eventually gave me a deal on CLP465GP for 3,800 including shipping and then said that he will see if he can drop a couple of hundreds as well. N3 and also N2 had really good key action and also sound but they are out of my price range.
Piano_Shark: you are right. I can get a mini grand piano for around 6k. The good part about mini grand piano is that it comes with other built in sounds as well. I'm not crazy about 200 different instrument sounds but I was impressed with CLP465GP 4 different options of Grand Piano. I'm not that much bothered with the fact that I'd need to get mini grand piano tuned every year for $100 but the question would be how good is it?

If you're going to pay $6,000 you might as well buy the N1.

haha soooo many options. I couldn't try N1 but after playing N2 and N3, I'm sure it won't disappoint me.

I'm glad that I started this topic. This is a very interesting topic. Mini Digital Grand Piano for around (3k - 15k) or Acoustic piano within the same budget (Well in Acoustic case 6K is the starting point).
There aren't too many threads on this topic and I think it's a critical decision to make considering how many choices are available.

Would one rather spend 6-8k to buy a mini grand piano or a digital mini grand piano? I'm sure most of people who want to buy would want to know all this.

That's a usage decision in my humble uninformed opinion. Key factors like 'do you need a volume control?'. If I were you I'd stick with your decision to go digital, unless your wife is likely to be very patient and tolerant with the terrible noises you'll make while you're learning

So what do you guys think of CLP465GP for 3,600 to 3,800?

well, wives make terrible noises as well and they don't come standard with volume control...

buy it, it's very nice instrument and you can make love on it
not like on regular DP.

So the dealer has offered to sell it to you for $3800?
What would your counteroffer be?

Mac: Seller first offered 5,000. This is after bargaining the price.

Piano_Shark: good sense of humor and yes let's add this as an additional point to the benefits of having CLP465GP

well, wives make terrible noises as well and they don't come standard with volume control...



No offense to the ladies though, but above statement is just funny. You know I am just thankful for being married for the last twenty years.

Sorry for going off the topic.

To OP: Good luck on your selection. If you like it or your wife likes it, get it -- don't waste another day.

-Txt

make him throw in a nice bench and seal the deal.

What was your counter-offer?