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#1865177 - 03/20/12 03:48 AM Buying a Shigeru SK7
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Hi everyone,

I am looking for a grand piano upgrade from my upright that I have owned for 15 years.

I visited dealers and played various pianos. From checking pianos at 3 dealers the favourites for me are: Yamaha C7, Kawai RX7 and Shigeru Kawai SK7.

I would like to buy a piano that would last for many many years and at the moment I'm leaning towards the SK7.

The RX7 list price was about AUD$70k (dealer automatically discounted to AUD56k), shigeru sk7 listed for AUD$115k and discounted to $82k. The dealer with the Yamaha C7 didn't really talk to me but the list price was AUD72k. All of these three are polished ebony finishes.

I am really interested in the SK7 and did a lot of research into this instrument. According to the blue book of piano (http://www.bluebookofpianos.com/shigerukawai.htm), it is around US$63k.

The blue book of piano is a 2008 source so I checked with pianobuyer (2011 source) and the same model suggested maximum price is US$71k.

Since the Aussie and US dollars are pretty much 1 to 1 in terms of conversion rate, should I expect to be able to negotiate for around AUD71k? I know we have stricter customs, etc. which may increase fees but does make a $11k difference?

Any Aussies bought a SK7 or any other Shigeru pianos?

Cheers


Edited by zerox61 (03/20/12 05:04 AM)

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#1865205 - 03/20/12 07:24 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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Originally Posted By: zerox61
Hi everyone,

I am looking for a grand piano upgrade from my upright that I have owned for 15 years.

I visited dealers and played various pianos. From checking pianos at 3 dealers the favourites for me are: Yamaha C7, Kawai RX7 and Shigeru Kawai SK7.

I would like to buy a piano that would last for many many years and at the moment I'm leaning towards the SK7.

The RX7 list price was about AUD$70k (dealer automatically discounted to AUD56k), shigeru sk7 listed for AUD$115k and discounted to $82k. The dealer with the Yamaha C7 didn't really talk to me but the list price was AUD72k. All of these three are polished ebony finishes.

I am really interested in the SK7 and did a lot of research into this instrument. According to the blue book of piano (http://www.bluebookofpianos.com/shigerukawai.htm), it is around US$63k.

The blue book of piano is a 2008 source so I checked with pianobuyer (2011 source) and the same model suggested maximum price is US$71k.

Since the Aussie and US dollars are pretty much 1 to 1 in terms of conversion rate, should I expect to be able to negotiate for around AUD71k? I know we have stricter customs, etc. which may increase fees but does make a $11k difference?

Any Aussies bought a SK7 or any other Shigeru pianos?

Cheers
I do not know if the Piano Buyer SMP's are applicable to anywhere outside North America(I think they aren't). You have to read the introduction before the price lists to understand SMP. Fine says to expect 10-30% off the SMP as the selling price.

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#1865295 - 03/20/12 10:54 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
Steve Chandler Offline
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I've played one SK7 and it was a fabulous instrument, very controllable with a refined sound. One thing that might push the price higher in the USA is the MPA visit. This is not offered outside the USA.

It would seem to me that this is a matter of negotiating the price. The dealer has given you their automatic discount. Have you told them about the other offers (specifically the Yamaha) you're considering? A typical purchase includes moving costs, in home tunings and final adjustments. Does the piano come with an artist bench, you might assume it does, but are you sure. You have an initial price for the piano, you don't have a final package price.

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#1865314 - 03/20/12 11:38 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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I agree the Shigeru Kawai pianos are very fine instruments. I like both the SK6 and 7. Great bass tone once you reach the 7 foot mark! Good on you for considering a large piano! You will be delighted, whether you buy the RX7 or SK7. I like the Yamaha C7 too, very nice engineering. The Yamaha is brighter, and the Kawai's are warmer and have more bass tone.

The prices are crazy in AU. Take no notice of the ticket price. 20-30% off is usual I believe. Never pay the retail price, it's just there to allow more room for the sales people to negotiate.

I've been checking out a C7 and RX 7 just this weekend. One dealer offered me the C7 for $55k. But this would mean they were only going to give me $20K for my 5 year old RX 6, when the retail price is $65,995.00! Of course I did not pay that much, as the piano was shop soiled with rusty strings. The shop was so dark, I could not see these faults. Take care to check these things before you buy!

Try to get the dealer to reduce the price to $72,000.00 ? Just a guess as I have no idea of the cost price...

Make absolutely certain that the price actually includes a PROPER set up of the piano by a highly qualified Kawai specialist, not just a "free" tune.

I love the big pianos, they are awesome, but expensive..one of my techs told me many years ago, to buy the biggest piano you can afford in order to get a good bass! How true.

Good luck and enjoy your 7 foot plus grand!

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#1865492 - 03/20/12 06:27 PM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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just looked at the shigeru kawai website and the newer pianos are no longer named "SK".. i just saw Shigeru II, III, IV and so on. are you looking at an older model or just using the older names.

also, if you have a chance, look into the Yamaha CF series.

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#1865555 - 03/20/12 08:01 PM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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It's a pity, but the new Yamaha CF series pianos are not yet available in Australia as far as I know.

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#1865697 - 03/21/12 12:31 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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Opps, made and error in my first post, the RX7 is the RX7Blak, which in my opinion looks really cool.

My dealer said an MPA will be visiting and I'll get my name up on a board that is located in Kawai Japan so I believe the MPA visit is applicable for world wide Shigeru customers.

By the way, the $82k was the whole package: piano, stool, MPA visit, and delivered + installed in my house. I didn't know that in the US, or maybe other countries that the piano, stool and delivery are sold separately although the stool and delivery are almost negligible compared to a piano of this size and class.

One thing I haven't verified yet is the year of the piano. The piano in the showroom is new, but I don't know how long its been sitting there for.I know that from 2009 onwards, the M3 action is replaced by the M3 "ninja action" which has some (slight) improvements, especially on the hammer shank stabilizers. The piano buyer site does not and any different category for ninja action, so guess the ninja action won't really change the price of the sk7.

about the Sk7 and shigeru VII names, I'll have to check with the dealer when we discuss the deal. the piano in the show room clearly says SK7 on the iron plate. Edit: I'm pretty sure the Shigeru VII is just to make it look fancy on the website but the model is still sk7.

The end of financial year is coming up in 3 months time so if I manage to drag it around that time I may get some more discount =). Hopefully the SK7 is a slow selling piano because of it's price and size!

and yeah, sadly I haven't seen any CF yamaha's except for the CFIIIS which is $275k (list price), probably $160 after automatic discount. I probably have to travel interstate to test some out.


Edited by zerox61 (03/21/12 12:36 AM)

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#1869193 - 03/27/12 11:09 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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Hi guys,

I've been offered $40k for a yamaha c7 (2010 model but new and in showroom). I've also managed to get the shigeru sk7 down to $65k.

The dealer said that the 2010, 2011 and 2012 Yamaha C7 models are all exactly the same, no changes or added features whatsoever. I have 'gut feeling' doubts with his claim but cannot find anything on the internet that shows changes have been made.

Anyone heard of a new C7 for $40k? sounds like something is dodgy for it to be that price haha. I didn't even have to negotiate to get that price. The weird thing is why didn't that piano sell. It was kept in showroom for 2 years.

I am going to test out the C7 and re-test the Petrof Storm, Monsoon and Passat this weekend.

Any opinions on the Petrofs would be nice =) I initially disliked the Petrof sound but after spending some time with it, I started to enjoy the sound much more than the C6 (which I was testing side by side). In my opinion, the Petrof action is better than the Yamaha C6.

My only concern about the Petrof is that one of the Anti-Petrof dealers told me that the pianos are not suited for Australia's dry climate and will start to deteriorate after 10 years time (veneer peeling, actions sluggish, soundboard failing, etc). Sounds like BS to me though, I'll have to do my research before I can conclude this claim. Any info on this Petrof problem is greatly appriciated!!



Edited by zerox61 (03/27/12 11:10 AM)

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#1869219 - 03/27/12 12:15 PM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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Originally Posted By: zerox61
My only concern about the Petrof is that one of the Anti-Petrof dealers told me that the pianos are not suited for Australia's dry climate and will start to deteriorate after 10 years time (veneer peeling, actions sluggish, soundboard failing, etc). Sounds like BS to me though, I'll have to do my research before I can conclude this claim. Any info on this Petrof problem is greatly appreciated!!

I've never heard of this problem. I believe your initial assessment is probably correct. In general pianos in the American desert west tend to last longer because they don't have the swings of humidity during the course of the year that other parts of the USA have.

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#1869222 - 03/27/12 12:24 PM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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If you love the sound, feel, look, and price of the floor model, then buy the floor model. A year or two of in-store servicing and a little time being played will likely result in a more stable piano in your home. I am unaware of any changes to the C7 in the past couple of years.
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#1869225 - 03/27/12 12:30 PM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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Originally Posted By: zerox61
Opps, made and error in my first post, the RX7 is the RX7Blak, which in my opinion looks really cool.

My dealer said an MPA will be visiting and I'll get my name up on a board that is located in Kawai Japan so I believe the MPA visit is applicable for world wide Shigeru customers.

By the way, the $82k was the whole package: piano, stool, MPA visit, and delivered + installed in my house. I didn't know that in the US, or maybe other countries that the piano, stool and delivery are sold separately although the stool and delivery are almost negligible compared to a piano of this size and class.

One thing I haven't verified yet is the year of the piano. The piano in the showroom is new, but I don't know how long its been sitting there for.I know that from 2009 onwards, the M3 action is replaced by the M3 "ninja action" which has some (slight) improvements, especially on the hammer shank stabilizers. The piano buyer site does not and any different category for ninja action, so guess the ninja action won't really change the price of the sk7.

about the Sk7 and shigeru VII names, I'll have to check with the dealer when we discuss the deal. the piano in the show room clearly says SK7 on the iron plate. Edit: I'm pretty sure the Shigeru VII is just to make it look fancy on the website but the model is still sk7.

The end of financial year is coming up in 3 months time so if I manage to drag it around that time I may get some more discount =). Hopefully the SK7 is a slow selling piano because of it's price and size!

and yeah, sadly I haven't seen any CF yamaha's except for the CFIIIS which is $275k (list price), probably $160 after automatic discount. I probably have to travel interstate to test some out.


All shigerus have m3 action. The "ninja" action did not replace m3 its the action used on the Black series. SK versus shigeru nomenclature is just on the website. They didn't change the name--thats just misinformation. Pianos in Canada generally come with a bench and delivery in the price. I've never heard of anyone separately negotiating this.

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#1869236 - 03/27/12 01:01 PM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: AJF]
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Originally Posted By: zerox61
My only concern about the Petrof is that one of the Anti-Petrof dealers told me that the pianos are not suited for Australia's dry climate and will start to deteriorate after 10 years time (veneer peeling, actions sluggish, soundboard failing, etc). Sounds like BS to me though, I'll have to do my research before I can conclude this claim. Any info on this Petrof problem is greatly appriciated!!
This is disappointingly typical FUD.
Originally Posted By: AJF
Pianos in Canada generally come with a bench and delivery in the price. I've never heard of anyone separately negotiating this.
Not surprisingly, in N.America, we expect to sit down while playing, and yet I've commonly heard that the bench is not included in most other countries. smile A dealer may choose to roll delivery into the price using common local factors, but that is also not a universal practice. Once you add variations of distance and difficulty into a move all bets are off.
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#1869544 - 03/28/12 12:33 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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Originally Posted By: zerox61

Anyone heard of a new C7 for $40k? sounds like something is dodgy for it to be that price haha. I didn't even have to negotiate to get that price. The weird thing is why didn't that piano sell. It was kept in showroom for 2 years.


Lots of unsold high-value pianos around here, too. The economy went bottoms up and the piano budget must've been among the first to go around your parts, too.

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#1869735 - 03/28/12 10:54 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: gnuboi]
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Originally Posted By: gnuboi
Originally Posted By: zerox61

Anyone heard of a new C7 for $40k? sounds like something is dodgy for it to be that price haha. I didn't even have to negotiate to get that price. The weird thing is why didn't that piano sell. It was kept in showroom for 2 years.


Lots of unsold high-value pianos around here, too. The economy went bottoms up and the piano budget must've been among the first to go around your parts, too.


The SK7 is a great piano, but i'd be surprised (for the reasons stated above) if you couldn't get a better deal than you might suspect on a wide range of top tier pianos.
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#1878881 - 04/13/12 11:59 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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Hey, just an update guys.

The C7 sound is very very nice; clear bell-like treble and growling bass. However I think the action is too heavy for me. The dealer said it can be adjusted to feel lighter. I sorted adjusted my touch to the heavy action from playing it for a while but still feels strange when I start to play faster (I currently have a yamaha upright and the touch of it is worlds apart). So the C7 is probably out of my list. I'll play a few different c7's just to make sure the one I played is not dodgy.

The Petrof sound is very mellow than the yamaha and noticeably mellow compared with the Shigeru Kawai. The action is more 'natural' to me. What I mean is that when I played it for the first time,the piano was easy to control dynamics, play at any desired speed. It felt as if the piano was helping me play *lol* whereas the yamaha it felt like fighting it or taming it trying to control the dynamics (may be due to my technique or lack of skill lol, but it is my personal opinion guys!). I got quoted $47k(before negotiations) for a Pasat(6'10 size) and $61k(before negotiations) for a Monsoon(7'9 size).

The dealer said the Pasat was accidently ordered twice into the country, so there are two times the normal stock level, hence this price for the pasat.

The shigeru kawai (7'6) is still in consideration although I'm leaning towards the Monsoon mainly because of price difference (I managed to get the Shigeru Sk7 to $66k btw). The monsoon is bigger and cheaper by 5k (Before negotiation) too.

you may have noticed already that I am treating Shigeru and Petrof as equal. Would this be sensible or just stupid? The sound and touch are excellent in both brands and I have no bias towards brands. I consider them in the same league for these large grand models as far as my piano skills and hearing can tell (although my skills will improve as I play more, so this may not be true in the future). so can any one give their opinions about my comparison of brands?

BTW,
I was reading topics in this forum about Petrof prices skyrocketting in the USA. the SMP for the Petrof Monsoon 7'9 is $111,640!!!!! which is ridiculous! even the RRP on the petrof site is €49.990,00 which according to XE is around $65.3k

Also,
The weird thing is that the RRP of the Pasat is €45.990,00 (or ~$60k) according to the Petrof site. This makes the Monsoon only €4000 for an extra 11inch or 27cm, which makes me wonder...

The site I get the prices for RRP: http://www.petrof.com/grand-pianos-master-grand-piano-series.html


Edited by zerox61 (04/26/12 07:49 AM)

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#1878908 - 04/13/12 12:31 PM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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Originally Posted By: zerox61


I was reading topics in this forum about Petrof prices skyrocketting in the USA. the SMP for the Petrof Monsoon 7'9 is $111,640!!!!! which is ridiculous! even the RRP on the petrof site is €49.990,00 which according to XE is around $65.3k
American businesses have the proclivity to make pricing really complicated, be it cars, pianos, hotels, airlines, or healthcare. laugh

Good luck with your piano shopping! smile
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#1879029 - 04/13/12 04:06 PM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: Axtremus]
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Hello zerox61,
Less expensive options in the Shigeru Kawai range would be the SK6, SK5 or even the SK3. Recently, I played an SK3 which was just a fabulous piano. Shorter grands which are less than 178cm may have limitations, but most grands, 186cm and over, will provide more than adequate power and tonal richness for the home.

I sense that you have not found that piano which is for you. There is considerable variability among pianos, even pianos of the same model. Finally, you must make your decision based on many reasons, but primarily, on your personal preference for the sound and touch of the piano.

It is important to listen to the sound over the full range of the piano, not just the power or "growl" of the bass. Listen carefully to the quality of the treble. I believe that finding a beautiful treble in a piano is often more elusive, but is just as important as a satisfying bass.

I have a bias towards Kawai pianos. The eminent, Canadian piano expert, George Kolasis, places Shigeru Kawai pianos among the four best in the world. The others are Hamburg Steinway, Bösendorfer and Fazioli.

All the best for your choice!

Robert.



Edited by Robert 45 (04/13/12 04:08 PM)

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#1879042 - 04/13/12 04:35 PM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: Robert 45]
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Originally Posted By: Robert 45

I have a bias towards Kawai pianos. The eminent, Canadian piano expert, George Kolasis, places Shigeru Kawai pianos among the four best in the world. The others are Hamburg Steinway, Bösendorfer and Fazioli.


And of the four, Shigeru Kawai is definitely the most affordable !!!!
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#1879471 - 04/14/12 10:41 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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Thanks for the replies guys.

Robert, I'll be in a shigeru dealer this week to finalise my decision on the sk7. I'll also try the sk3,5,6 while I'm there. I've noticed that on the C6&C7 comparason, the C7 more clear on the upper treble so I should also expect clear treble and growling bass on the sk7 compared to the smaller models or else I will be seriously disappointed in this line of piano (I've heard the some brand of grand pianos, their treble registers are not as good as their smaller sized grands. not sure if it was in this forum or just something I heard from someone).

Today I played a 5 week old Yamaha C7 and it was fantastic! Although the action is still as heavy as the older one I played (2 years old), I found it easy to control, hitting that pp and ppp spot on. Playing fast was still a bit difficult but I think that is because I have played my upright Yamaha C108 for 15 years and the C7 for ~40 minutes. This C7 felt really different to the "hire" C7 that I mention in my opening post. I found out that the C7 for $40k was a hire piano (where they send it off the people who will use it for venues, etc). I was talking to a concert pianist in my local area today and he knows about the C7 for $40k and told me about the hire thing.

Now, selection is even a bigger headache with the C7 back in the game. to make things worse, I'm going to a steinway shop next week! haha however I think it will be out of my budget by miles to get a 7footer hamburg steinway.

looks like my thread now has gone quite a long way off from my original thread topic.

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#1879935 - 04/15/12 08:58 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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I hope this doesn't make your headache worse, but have you looked at Schimmel pianos yet? Because there is also a Schimmel dealer in melbourne and you might like to try it out, as well as another dealer that carries Estonia.

The Steinway dealer in town has some ex-performance 9 footers that you might find really nice as well- i sure did, although they are pretty (really!) big. Best of luck.

Edit: you may not be in melbourne. In Adelaide, there is Bösendorfer, in Sydney there is Bechstein and Seiler. In brisbane, you can get loads of other brands i think, like Mason and hamlin and Grotrian i'm sure of.


Edited by Rotom (04/15/12 09:01 AM)
Edit Reason: Not sure of location of op

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#1880504 - 04/16/12 12:23 PM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: Rotom]
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I played a Schimmel I think it is a 189 model. It was a baby one though. The big ones were not in the shop so I could not play them. I'm based in Perth, so not much choice as the other states but still enough to give me a big headache.

Today I saw (and played) a Yamaha CF 9" 1985 for $70. It is going to be semi-restored (brass castor new finish, hammer replacement, regulation, voicing). Selling for 70k. Depending on how it sounds and feels in the end, it might be a steal.

Based on the current sound and feel of the CF, the action is much lighter than all of the C7's I played (They are new models) and the sound is just as good as if it were new. checked sound board and frame, in perfect condition. the case is a bit scratched up though.

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#1880536 - 04/16/12 01:33 PM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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Originally Posted By: zerox61

Today I saw (and played) a Yamaha CF 9" 1985 for $70. It is going to be semi-restored (brass castor new finish, hammer replacement, regulation, voicing). Selling for 70k. Depending on how it sounds and feels in the end, it might be a steal.
New finish on the piano or the castors?

Unless the case is being refinished the price seems extremely high. Possibly very high even if the case is being refinished. There are many great new pianos for that price or less including(I think)the Mason Hamlin concert grand.


Edited by pianoloverus (04/16/12 01:34 PM)

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#1880772 - 04/16/12 07:31 PM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: zerox61

Today I saw (and played) a Yamaha CF 9" 1985 for $70. It is going to be semi-restored (brass castor new finish, hammer replacement, regulation, voicing). Selling for 70k. Depending on how it sounds and feels in the end, it might be a steal.


Pay $50K or less (not $70K) and it will be a steal. grin
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#1881010 - 04/17/12 08:57 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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Cool, thanks for the heads up. Although offered for $70k, I would of tried for 64-65ish (not anymore!). I would have to wait a month for the repairs anyway. I don't think I can wait.

From all the shops I have visited, I have not seen one Mason and hamlin piano at a dealer so I don't think I'll have a chance to try this breed of piano. From my quick search on this piano, the 9'4 concert is approx 90k (SMP). nice!

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#1881054 - 04/17/12 10:13 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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Hey, where are you located, if you dont mind telling?

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#1881112 - 04/17/12 11:21 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: Rotom]
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Pm'ed. Just in case my dealers are secretly lurking around pianoworld forums :P

edit: well, I guess I gave too much info anyway, if the dealer was actually reading this, then he would of guessed already


Edited by zerox61 (04/17/12 11:23 AM)

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#1881195 - 04/17/12 01:18 PM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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Originally Posted By: zerox61
From all the shops I have visited, I have not seen one Mason and hamlin piano at a dealer so I don't think I'll have a chance to try this breed of piano. From my quick search on this piano, the 9'4 concert is approx 90k (SMP). nice!
So it will sell for 70-80% of 90k.

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#1881744 - 04/18/12 12:58 PM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
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I know it can get frustrating, but I hope you're enjoying the search. It sounds like you're trying out some really excellent pianos. I hope you find the one that really sings to you.
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#1883437 - 04/21/12 04:35 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
zerox61 Offline
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Hi guys,

Just want to thanks everyone for the input to this thread and the PM's I've got related to this topic.

I just bought a Shigeru SK7. I cannot give the price that I paid as was what the dealer wished. It is definitely within the bracket of 70% to 90% of the SMP guides at Pianobuyer.com. Although that guide is for the American domestic market, it seemed to work here! haha

I walked out of the store without taking a photo of the piano! so I'll post one once it arrives at my house (in 1 or 2 weeks time)


Edited by zerox61 (04/21/12 04:38 AM)

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#1883440 - 04/21/12 04:47 AM Re: Buying a Shigeru SK7 [Re: zerox61]
Robert 45 Offline
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Great news! Congratulations!
Can you tell us what finally weighed in favour of the Shigeru VII?

Was it the piano or the deal, or a combination of both?

Very best wishes for a safe delivery of your new pride and joy.

Robert.

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