Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
(ad) Yamaha CP4 Rebate
Yamaha CP4 Rebate
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Who's Online
81 registered (Almaviva, aesop, Al LaPorte, 18 invisible), 1033 Guests and 11 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#1895760 - 05/12/12 01:34 PM Till Fellner - genius and witty guy
jnod Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 04/04/09
Posts: 794
Loc: Toronto
During Till Fellner’s recent concert at the Austrian Embassy he did not play on the Austrian Embassy’s Bösendorfer, favoring instead a Steinway borrowed locally and delivered especially for his recital. When asked after the recital if he had tried the Bösendorfer Fellner noted laconically, as he sipped a well-earned glass of beer, “Yes - burn it.”’
_________________________
Justin
-------
Bach English Suite #5
Scarlatti Sonata K141 . L422
Mozart Sonata K333
Schubert Impromptu opus 90 D899
Schubert Moment Musicaux opus 94 D780

Top
Piano & Music Gifts & Accessories (570)
Piano accessories and music gift items
#1896013 - 05/13/12 02:39 AM Re: Till Fellner - genius and witty guy [Re: jnod]
wr Offline
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/23/07
Posts: 8242
Speaking of Till Fellner, I always thought it was neat that he recorded the Reubke piano sonata, which is pretty far off the beaten path. And it is a good recording, IMO.

The sonata is a pretty amazing piece for a young composer, though it sounds a bit as if he was channeling the Liszt sonata during its composition. He was studying with Liszt at the time, I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNMWu2_T94g

Top
#1896121 - 05/13/12 10:43 AM Re: Till Fellner - genius and witty guy [Re: jnod]
tomasino Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/24/05
Posts: 2039
Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Originally Posted By: jnod
During Till Fellner’s recent concert at the Austrian Embassy he did not play on the Austrian Embassy’s Bösendorfer, favoring instead a Steinway borrowed locally and delivered especially for his recital. When asked after the recital if he had tried the Bösendorfer Fellner noted laconically, as he sipped a well-earned glass of beer, “Yes - burn it.”’


Fellner's a new pianist to me, but it's an interesting comment he made.

I just recently read "Men, Women and Pianos" by Arthur Loesser. The book is usually thought of as social history of the piano, but it's much more than that. Among a host of other issues, Loesser writes about the piano and economic history, industrial competition between nations, and the history of manufacturing and how the 19th century steam driven factory effected production of pianos. Loesser also writes at considerable length about the competition between manufacturers of top line pianos.

Loesser would have us believe that after Steinway trumped Chickering as the piano of choice for virtuoso keyboard artists, Steinway really had no competition other than Mason and Hamlin, and even that competition was limited to the years 1900-1925. Knabe, Baldwin and the rest of them all put up their dukes and made the challenge, but none of them, ever, was the choice of artists. Many artists were happy to accept a fee, play upon a Knabe or Baldwin, and allow themselves to be billed as a Baldwin or Knabe artist. Loesser's point is that other than Mason and Hamlin for a limited time period, Steinway was always the real choice of pianists.

Loesser also points out that manufacturers of high end pianos seem to need someone who bears the family name to maintain quality. As I recall, there is no longer anyone who bears the name Steinway in the Steinway factory. I wonder if this is necessarily a bad omen. And now we have Bosendorfer, Bechstein, and a host of others coming down the pike and issuing the challenge. And I wonder. Bosenderfer! Just the name is enough to put the fear of the lord in you--sounds like a sixteen cylinder German racing car at the INDY 500 coming round the corner to vanquish the Americans. But is there a "Herr Boesendorfer" involved at the Boesendorfer factory?

Till Felner isn't the only artist unimpressed. Someplace on Steven Hough's website, I recall him writing that Steinway is still the choice.

Thoughts

Tomasino


Edited by tomasino (05/13/12 01:41 PM)
_________________________
"Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do so with all thy might." Ecclesiastes 9:10


Top
#1896143 - 05/13/12 11:38 AM Re: Till Fellner - genius and witty guy [Re: jnod]
jnod Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 04/04/09
Posts: 794
Loc: Toronto
Interesting points - I think there's something to be said for maintaining quality as a family legacy rather than a corporate one certainly. To build an outstanding piano one has to be obsessed with its perfection rather than the bottom line. I don't really know whether Steinway, now or then, lives up to this better than the other big name pianos though I am a fan of them for sure. I've played some 1920s era Heintzmans that were quite outstanding - similar to Steinway in that they were incredibly solid and a family business. As generations passed however, the family became less and less interested and the brand diminished to the point that they folded - late 1970s I think. The stencil has since been purchased by a Chinese firm. Not highly recommended.

Having said that, I don't have anything particularly negative to say about Bosendorfer. I've played one of the concert grands (with the extra keys at the bottom) and it was indeed exhilarating.....
_________________________
Justin
-------
Bach English Suite #5
Scarlatti Sonata K141 . L422
Mozart Sonata K333
Schubert Impromptu opus 90 D899
Schubert Moment Musicaux opus 94 D780

Top

Moderator:  Brendan, Kreisler 
Shop our Store for Music Lovers!
PianoSupplies.com is Piano World's Online Store
Please visit our store today.
Composer Statuettes
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
Ad (Seiler/Knabe)
Knabe Pianos
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
New Topics - Multiple Forums
What is the piano in this performance?
by PianissiGretto
Today at 12:41 AM
Is this something?
by JoelW
Today at 12:04 AM
"Dyno" ?
by Charles Cohen
Yesterday at 11:23 PM
First Post on PW...Restored C. Bechstein Model B question!
by VoiceDoc
Yesterday at 10:58 PM
Steinway Buzz..??
by Lucas Brookins
Yesterday at 10:48 PM
What's Hot!!
New Forum for Selling Your Products or Services
--------------------
Historic Piano Documents
--------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
Forum Stats
79,028 Registered Members
44 Forums
163,518 Topics
2,399,435 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Sheet Music Plus (125)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2015 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission