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#1895789 - 05/12/12 03:01 PM Italian translation help wanted
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What I am now playing consists of small pieces each with a title in Italian. One of them is "malancolico". That's right, not mel- but mal-. I cannot find the word in any dictionary. Could anyone help me out what this could mean? I know what melancolico is, could this be some kind of pun, if so what? Or is it just an alternative spelling?

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#1895803 - 05/12/12 03:35 PM Re: Italian translation help wanted [Re: troglodyte]
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I can't find that exact spelling, either, but since "malanconia" (Italian)* is melancholy, sadness, and :
melancolia (Italian f.) melancholy
melancolico (Italian) melancholic

then I would think of it as "melancholy".

*Dolmetsch dictionary.

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#1895897 - 05/12/12 07:57 PM Re: Italian translation help wanted [Re: troglodyte]
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Maybe it means "badly melancholy." grin

And actually maybe that's what the composer was getting at -- yeah, it would be sort of a pun.

#1895906 - 05/12/12 08:13 PM Re: Italian translation help wanted [Re: troglodyte]
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Actually as far as I know the Italian definitions are malinconia and malinconico, so the typo would be the a instead of the i.

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#1895910 - 05/12/12 08:20 PM Re: Italian translation help wanted [Re: troglodyte]
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It's Italian for a severe case of colic; as in a "colicky baby."

#1895947 - 05/12/12 10:12 PM Re: Italian translation help wanted [Re: ChopinAddict]
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Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
Actually as far as I know the Italian definitions are malinconia and malinconico, so the typo would be the a instead of the i.
My Italian dictionary supports this theory smile
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#1896032 - 05/13/12 05:03 AM Re: Italian translation help wanted [Re: troglodyte]
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Just for interest's sake... My dictionary shows malinconico as being "literary", maninconico and melancolico as being historic spellings.

The origins are listed as Latin : melancholicum and Greek - melancholikos.

So, I'd agree, it isn't a pun, just a typo.

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