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#1897182 - 05/15/12 07:05 AM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Dr Popper]
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Originally Posted By: Dr Popper
All I ever say is the ONLY people I know who like the V-piano are amateur players who actually have bought one themselves and feel the need to defend it.


smokin

interesting, tell this to Paul Mirkovich and others pros playing v-piano...

sick

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#1897206 - 05/15/12 07:41 AM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Bech]
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Is it this Paul Mirkovich? The one that "assists" Roland with its marketing?

http://www.roland.com/video/page.cfm?vid=50180512

And as an aside (irrelevant, admittedly) on his myspace page lists his heroes as - Mom, wife, and, wait for it....Jesus.

Sick bag anyone?
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#1897209 - 05/15/12 07:46 AM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: offnote]
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Originally Posted By: offnote
Originally Posted By: Dr Popper
All I ever say is the ONLY people I know who like the V-piano are amateur players who actually have bought one themselves and feel the need to defend it.


smokin

interesting, tell this to Paul Mirkovich and others pros playing v-piano...

sick


Actually I can say this - those who never played acoustic grand piano may not like V-Piano.

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#1897215 - 05/15/12 07:53 AM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Bech]
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Hey, don't forget those who do not play classical music.
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#1897224 - 05/15/12 08:11 AM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Hey, don't forget those who do not play classical music.


exactly right as well. In popular music mix you can get away with shallow sounding DPs and you have to be really advanced jazz player to appreaciate and make use of acoustic grand full dynamic range.

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#1897244 - 05/15/12 09:04 AM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Bech]
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Which is rather like saying those who don't play classical or "really advanced jazz" aren't really interested in the sound of their pianos. Which strikes me as elitist and (of course) total nonsense.
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#1897272 - 05/15/12 10:02 AM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: EssBrace]
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Originally Posted By: EssBrace
Which is rather like saying those who don't play classical or "really advanced jazz" aren't really interested in the sound of their pianos. Which strikes me as elitist and (of course) total nonsense.


I don't think its nonsense. It's spot on.

For non-classical music mixes, very bright pianos from workstations work better than recordings of a real acoustic grand. The real grands sound muddy in most mixes and need plenty of equalization and compression. Where's nonsense?

PS
and there hardly a doubt that classical and Jazz pianists deliver far more expression than other styles. As a rule, they can play your style of choice perfectly and a self-taught hip-hop artist cannot play classical or jazz anywhere good.


Edited by alekkh (05/15/12 10:07 AM)

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#1897315 - 05/15/12 11:34 AM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Bech]
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We are very fortunate to have a company like Roland to take an engineering gamble on such a unique product like the "V". These discussions are valuable to future artists looking to move their playing to a new level, that heretofore, other boards could not live up to. It is "Zen-like" to seize on a new product to gain impetice and direction. It is the quintessential Goldilocks piano; not too big, not too loud, not too small, not too..


Edited by krzyzowski (05/15/12 11:36 AM)

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#1897351 - 05/15/12 12:53 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Bech]
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Yes, the V-Piano has hopefully kickstarted a trend that will bring physically- modeled DP's to the forefront. The Physis piano is a perfect example. Although initial audio demos for this product reveal a slightly thin treble that lacks some 'body' of an acoustic grand. Time will tell if they are able to hone the sound further.

But hopefully, we will see the day when a small, portable keyboard under ones arm will pack heavy-duty processing power so that it can be physically-modeled and give the user endless tweakability and HD midi velocity response.

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#1897357 - 05/15/12 01:00 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: krzyzowski]
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Originally Posted By: krzyzowski
We are very fortunate to have a company like Roland to take an engineering gamble on such a unique product like the "V". These discussions are valuable to future artists looking to move their playing to a new level, that heretofore, other boards could not live up to. It is "Zen-like" to seize on a new product to gain impetice and direction. It is the quintessential Goldilocks piano; not too big, not too loud, not too small, not too..


Both Roland and Yamaha have been essential in advancing the digital piano field. In my opinion Yamaha took the lead about 12 years ago however slowed down the next 9 and let Roland take the lead with the release of the V-Piano. The AG series has brought the technological battle closer and it will be interesting to see where things lead. I do feel that in general, sampled based DP's have not improved as rapidly as we would like polyphony-wise. It is hard to believe that is still an issue even today. Every DP should have by now 256 polyphony standard. As this forum makes clear, the V-Piano isn't for everyone, however what it has done is bring a large enough change to an area that hasn't changed that much ov the last 10 or so years. As an example you need look no further than the CLP990 specs and compare them with todays top of the line Clavinova's. I just hope advancement occurs a little more quickly the next 10 years when I will be ready to buy my V-Piano's replacement.


Edited by Kona_V-Piano (05/15/12 01:02 PM)
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#1897365 - 05/15/12 01:11 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Bech]
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To "V" or not to "V" this gentleman seems to have found the answer! smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfECxccO7zg

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#1897390 - 05/15/12 02:00 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Bech]
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Yes, and Roland's cheque might have helped him make up his mind.
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#1897402 - 05/15/12 02:11 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: EssBrace]
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Originally Posted By: Kona_V-Piano
This thread degenerated after a couple forum members thought a portion of my post was directed at them. It does seem since the V-Piano is different than the rest of the sampled pianos, it brings with it a lot of emotions, good and bad.


No, it degenerated when you made thinly veiled references to me and one or two others, then denied it with a very dismissive, arrogant retort when asked to state your case more directly.

So, who was your comment referring to?

Let's remember that the very positive and then the negative or at least shall we say qualified comments generally come from a few posters:

Me - had a V-Piano, got rid of it because I didn't like the tone (regardless of all the fiddling around that is possible).
Lawrence (MelodialWorks Music) - had a V-Piano, got rid of it for the same reasons.
Dr. Popper - Professional musician, played a V-Piano many times, hates it.
Bruce (bfb) - Got a V-Piano, not enamoured with the tone so uses it exclusively to control software now and would have got rid of it had it not cost him so much. Thinks Roland should further develop it.
Richard (pv88) - Got a V-Piano. Hears issues with the tone and is having problems with the keys but is prepared to tolerate those problems for all the good things the V does.
bennevis - Got a V-Piano, very happy with it. Had replacement keys due to wear.
Kona - Got a V-Piano, very happy with it, no issues with the piano but frustrated Roland have done diddly-squat with the concept since launch.
DazedandConfused - Plays a V regularly, likes it very much, intends to buy one at some point in the future.

Have I missed anyone with lots of personal experience of the V that very often contributes to V-Piano threads? So, Kona - who was your comment referring to?


yep, i think you've found all the vpiano owners in the world. we are like the immortals of Green Lantern. perched high above all the DP riff-raff out there playing their honky tonkish dp's..

i haven't finished going through all the detritus of this thread- its amazing how vpiano threads are like roadside IED's waiting to blow away some poor unsuspecting blogger.

But- to restate my beliefs as a member of the 2000 lb portable DP club- i am all for the vpiano if roland would act like they give a crap and let us know they haven't left the building completely. that's it. period. Kona is right- an update would send the market a signal that the original vpiano designers weren't taken out the back door and shot.
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#1897406 - 05/15/12 02:15 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Hey, don't forget those who do not play classical music.


yes, i think you are on to something there. it may be the discerning argument that separates the proponents from the opponents.
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#1897438 - 05/15/12 03:26 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Bech]
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There is no "big" money in playing classical music..its all pop/rock
Lady Gaga makes more in one tour than it would take the classical
artist several lifetimes and alot of endless concerts to even come
close...Roland wouldn't have that much interest in catering to
classical pianists..


Edited by Bob Newbie (05/15/12 03:37 PM)

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#1897445 - 05/15/12 03:44 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Bob Newbie]
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Originally Posted By: Bob Newbie
Roland wouldn't have that much interest in catering to classical pianists..

But in terms of piano, that's where the kudos still resides. Roland and Yamaha are very keen to have classical pianists demonstrating their top end creations. It carries far more weight than a pimply youth from the latest boy band.

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#1897449 - 05/15/12 04:02 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Bech]
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If were talking about selling pianos..all Roland has to do is hire Lady Gaga
for a commershill, with a suggestive line like.... I just love my "V"
sales would take off... smile

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#1897455 - 05/15/12 04:20 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: bfb]
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yep, i think you've found all the vpiano owners in the world. we are like the immortals of Green Lantern. perched high above all the DP riff-raff out there playing their honky tonkish dp's..


Are we of the elite few, then? Couldn't have said it better, myself. grin

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#1897457 - 05/15/12 04:24 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Dr Popper]
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Originally Posted By: Dr Popper
Lets get this straight ... I don't shrill for ANYONE


..... Hmmmmmm

Originally Posted By: Dr Popper
And lets clear up some misinformation .... on V-piano sales
Roland have not sold many V-pianos at all ... which is why so few owners come on the forum.


Wow ... hard to argue with that logic. There is no pianistic world beyond the forum. I must remember this formula:

number of posts = k * total piano sales. LOL!

On the other hand, could it be that as the V-Piano is clearly a digital piano for professionals, maybe the real professional musicians are far too busy making music to be bothered defending their purchase from a persistent brace of cloth-eared clowns on a messageboard?

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As for the person who stated as a fact the V-piano Grand is outselling Yamaha's AG ...


you mean me ......

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well lets talk facts.


Please do, I am all ears ......

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There have been less the 30 V-Grands delivered worldwide (yep 30 !!!) ... Yamaha has sold over 2000 AG's ....


2000 N3s? Wow!

You are remarkably well informed on this issue that you have nothing to 'shrill' about ...... would love to know where you got those 'factual' figures.

Not being "professionally supported" by anyone, just a humble consumer I got my 'facts' from the Thomann site which is the only online store that I know of that provides a sales chart for different categories of instruments. In that store, at least the V-Piano Grand is ranked higher than either the N2 or N3. Hardly definitive, not that it particularly matters.

The thing I find really interesting is this 'consensus' that seems to have grown that somehow the V-Piano has been a disaster for Roland when very few people except insiders ...hmmm .... would have any real knowledge of the situation. It is amazing the effect that a few loudmouths can have in a forum .....

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What fools you all .....


This I need to hear .... please tell us, oh great one!

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..... is that it's got a amazing connective feel to it unlike any other DP and that makes you think its good.


I see! That's where we have all been going wrong. Mistaking a musical instrument that responds to touch in a way that leaves other DPs standing as being in some way .... 'good' .... No, wait a minute, that doesn't sound right isn't that what a great musical instrument is supposed to do?

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But it might feel good playing it (as the CP1 does) the V's sound is fatally flawed (not that this clique of V owners can hear it).


If you genuinely believe the sound to be fatally flawed then possibly your hearing is damaged in some way .... high frequency loss from too many 'gigs'? It is probably worth making a trip to see a 'real' doctor.


Edited by DazedAndConfused (05/15/12 04:38 PM)
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#1897458 - 05/15/12 04:24 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: bfb]
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Originally Posted By: EssBrace
Originally Posted By: Kona_V-Piano
This thread degenerated after a couple forum members thought a portion of my post was directed at them. It does seem since the V-Piano is different than the rest of the sampled pianos, it brings with it a lot of emotions, good and bad.


No, it degenerated when you made thinly veiled references to me and one or two others, then denied it with a very dismissive, arrogant retort when asked to state your case more directly.

So, who was your comment referring to?

Let's remember that the very positive and then the negative or at least shall we say qualified comments generally come from a few posters:

Me - had a V-Piano, got rid of it because I didn't like the tone (regardless of all the fiddling around that is possible).
Lawrence (MelodialWorks Music) - had a V-Piano, got rid of it for the same reasons.
Dr. Popper - Professional musician, played a V-Piano many times, hates it.
Bruce (bfb) - Got a V-Piano, not enamoured with the tone so uses it exclusively to control software now and would have got rid of it had it not cost him so much. Thinks Roland should further develop it.
Richard (pv88) - Got a V-Piano. Hears issues with the tone and is having problems with the keys but is prepared to tolerate those problems for all the good things the V does.
bennevis - Got a V-Piano, very happy with it. Had replacement keys due to wear.
Kona - Got a V-Piano, very happy with it, no issues with the piano but frustrated Roland have done diddly-squat with the concept since launch.
DazedandConfused - Plays a V regularly, likes it very much, intends to buy one at some point in the future.

Have I missed anyone with lots of personal experience of the V that very often contributes to V-Piano threads? So, Kona - who was your comment referring to?


yep, i think you've found all the vpiano owners in the world. we are like the immortals of Green Lantern. perched high above all the DP riff-raff out there playing their honky tonkish dp's..

i haven't finished going through all the detritus of this thread- its amazing how vpiano threads are like roadside IED's waiting to blow away some poor unsuspecting blogger.

But- to restate my beliefs as a member of the 2000 lb portable DP club- i am all for the vpiano if roland would act like they give a crap and let us know they haven't left the building completely. that's it. period. Kona is right- an update would send the market a signal that the original vpiano designers weren't taken out the back door and shot.


Lol@IED comment. Very well put. V-Piano designers out there, if you're listening, and not shot, let us original V-Piano early adopters know, actually give us some type of sign that you guys or girls are working on something new for us. One of the main reasons I purchased the V-Piano because I did see it as the future, and its design is upgradeable with plenty of space left for changes or improvements like the Evolution update.

Lol@dazedandconfused. smile. If anything, these V-Piano discussions that pop up about every six or so months at the very least are mixed with raw emotions and then usually end with humor.


Edited by Kona_V-Piano (05/15/12 04:31 PM)
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#1897459 - 05/15/12 04:26 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: krzyzowski]
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Originally Posted By: krzyzowski
It [i.e., the V-Piano] is the quintessential Goldilocks piano; not too big, not too loud, not too small, not too..


Very well said, as it fits the bill for many players.

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#1897467 - 05/15/12 04:42 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Kona_V-Piano]
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@Kona_V-Piano,

You are right about Roland not doing much of anything to add some additional presets to the V, although my guess would be that the current technology (in regards to the modeling in the V) has not been updated yet, meaning that there are probably no new or significant changes in that technology.

It may be a while yet before Roland develops a new digital with a different (and, updated) sound engine, as that's up to R&D in Japan to decide on those details. Everybody wants to know "when" this technology will evolve again, so that remains the big "?" for now.

Even so, I am sticking with the current V until I see anything that looks to be similar (or, equal) to what it does...

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#1897472 - 05/15/12 04:55 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Bech]
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You never know but the V-Piano may yet prove to be a defining kind of "concorde moment" where it is the pinnacle of the hardware stage piano. Notwithstanding my personal objections to the tone of the thing it is a technical tour-de-force. And if the cost of development and production is the direct cause of its high price, its relative market failure might cause others to think long and hard before trying to emulate it. And this might also explain Roland's apparent retreat from it.

I'm quite tempted to say that if I still had mine at this stage of the game I might keep it because of what it represents. Just some random thoughts anyway...
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#1897473 - 05/15/12 04:56 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Kona_V-Piano]
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Originally Posted By: Kona_V-Piano
Very well put. V-Piano designers out there, if you're listening, and not shot, let us original V-Piano early adopters know, actually give us some type of sign that you guys or girls are working on something new for us. One of the main reasons I purchased the V-Piano because I did see it as the future, and its design is upgradeable with plenty of space left for changes or improvements like the Evolution update.


In this vid (awful sound quality), the pianist does say that he knows that Roland are working on refinements but I don't know when the interview was done. He may have been referring to the Evolution updates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w_cUQOV-xM

Open question: would V-Piano owners be willing to pay for future upgrades? If not, I cannot see the business case for Roland investing money in R & D to provide software updates for customers who are already happy with the sound and possibilities that their instrument provides.
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#1897481 - 05/15/12 05:11 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: DazedAndConfused]
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Originally Posted By: DazedAndConfused
[quote=Kona_V-Piano]
Open question: would V-Piano owners be willing to pay for future upgrades? If not, I cannot see the business case for Roland investing money in R & D to provide software updates for customers who are already happy with the sound and possibilities that their instrument provides.



as the non-classical player inelegantly put it: "you're s**tting me, right?"

i paid enough already. doing magical things to the software might get me to buy a more portable version in the future. doing nothing with the OS won't get me to do that, for certain.

Software was MADE to be UPDATED! keep the user close to you. granted, this isn't a free iphone app, but still, you can give us something once a year to play with.
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#1897498 - 05/15/12 05:51 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Bech]
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essbrace, you may very well be correct in your assumption. If in a few years we get nothing new in terms of modeling tech enhancements be it a new model or an update to the currrent V, and the supernatural line continues to sell well, not even Yamaha will want to change their current sampling/hybrid DP's anytime soon. It is common sense to keep the status quo as long as possible, that is why 64 to 128 polyphony and sampled sounds have been the norm now without much change for the last ten years.

There is still yet a window where Roland can get back into the game of trying to jump start the idea of modeling as the future. It just needs to happen sooner rather than later.
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#1897518 - 05/15/12 06:27 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Bech]
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I think Roland made a fundamental mistake with the pricing of the V-Piano. They made it way too expensive. If it sounded for all intents and purposes like the real thing, then they could justify the price, but it doesn't (still a very good DP though). Now, because of poor sales (??) it will be more difficult for Roland to justify putting a lot of money and effort into a V-Piano2.
I think it's less likely that we'll see an update in the near future. Just look in general at the digital emulation development the last years. Not a lot of improvement in realism as far as I can hear. You get the new VA/synth or hammond clone every other year, but the sonical improvements are minimal at best IMO.
For a new V-Piano there would have to be fairly drastic changes to the sound and/or setup, I just don't see that happening in the next few years.
Considering also the rate of development in DSP/CPU area, I would personally be hesitant to buy a modelled piano using old technology. So that begs the question, how many more years can Roland sell a digital piano for that crazy price with "old" DSP technology? I wouldn't be suprised if Roland just let the V-Piano silently fade out into the DP horizon .

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#1897539 - 05/15/12 07:30 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: Bech]
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Well my AvantGrand N1 hooked to the Nord Piano 2 is better than all of your boards, so take that! laugh

Jokes aside, we each hear differently. I've probably played a combined 15 hours on V-Pianos since they've been released and I can't get ver the awful mids. I even spent almost 2 hours setting up the V-Piano using Bennevis's presets, which by the way is a much appreciated and thoughtful task, thumbs up there. Even then, the V still had the same flawed tone. A rather cold, metalliness, and sterile sound overall. But again, that's what my ears hear. YMMV.

I believe the V exceeds all others in how the sound behaves and how it responds to touch. Roland did a fantastic job with it there.
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#1897598 - 05/15/12 09:10 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: PianoZac]
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Loc: Atlanta GA USA
Originally Posted By: ZacharyForbes
Well my AvantGrand N1 hooked to the Nord Piano 2 is better than all of your boards, so take that! laugh



Zachary, your setup sort of reminds me of the space shuttle being flown around on top of a 747.....
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#1897614 - 05/15/12 10:02 PM Re: Roland V-Piano [Re: EssBrace]
Dr Popper Offline
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Registered: 12/30/09
Posts: 1706
Loc: Hancock Park LA (not again)

I know Paul well and I've never seen him with a V-piano .... might be a Roland thing indeed.


Originally Posted By: EssBrace
Is it this Paul Mirkovich? The one that "assists" Roland with its marketing?

http://www.roland.com/video/page.cfm?vid=50180512

And as an aside (irrelevant, admittedly) on his myspace page lists his heroes as - Mom, wife, and, wait for it....Jesus.

Sick bag anyone?
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