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#1902393 - 05/24/12 01:23 PM C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926)
schwammerl Offline
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Below is a movie about C. Bechstein from 1926 when the factory was still located in Berlin (quite long - 26 min.):

C. Becshtein: 1926 - Berlin

schwammerl.

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#1902487 - 05/24/12 04:54 PM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: schwammerl]
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Here is a much more recent Bechstein company video from 2002:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qx_Qb1HBr0&feature=relmfu

I am curious to know from those familiar with Bechstein if this video represents the typical Bechstein sound on a well prepped instrument. I found the sound extremely beautiful.

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#1902556 - 05/24/12 07:02 PM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus


I am curious to know from those familiar with Bechstein if this video represents the typical Bechstein sound on a well prepped instrument. I found the sound extremely beautiful.


Yes, on both videos.
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#1902564 - 05/24/12 07:15 PM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: schwammerl]
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I enjoyed watching both videos... a good learning experience. Makes me want to log out of PW and go play my piano! laugh

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#1902797 - 05/25/12 07:55 AM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: schwammerl]
Sam S Offline
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Thanks for posting this. I'm restoring a 1927 Bechstein Model L - I think I saw my piano being loaded on that ship for export!

Sam

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#1902927 - 05/25/12 11:56 AM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: schwammerl]
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Originally Posted By: Sam S
Thanks for posting this. I'm restoring a 1927 Bechstein Model L - I think I saw my piano being loaded on that ship for export!

Sam

Hi Sam!

By-the-way, how is your Bechstein restoration project going? Did you replace the sound board or just refurbish it?

When you get it finished, I'll have to come over and try it out. smile

I went to look at an early 1900's (1917?) Baldwin R yesterday. It is advertised on eBay and was only a few miles from my home. It was in very rough condition and needed a lot of work (right up my alley smile ). However, the asking price was way above what I was willing to offer and I didn't want to insult the owners. Some things are better left unsaid.

Rick
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#1902941 - 05/25/12 12:30 PM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: Rickster]
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Originally Posted By: Rickster
Originally Posted By: Sam S
Thanks for posting this. I'm restoring a 1927 Bechstein Model L - I think I saw my piano being loaded on that ship for export!

Sam

Hi Sam!

By-the-way, how is your Bechstein restoration project going? Did you replace the sound board or just refurbish it?

When you get it finished, I'll have to come over and try it out. smile

Rick


The old soundboard and bridges are in Canada right now at Bolduc being duplicated. The plate has been refinished and I am struggling to make the case look presentable. The real fun begins when I get the new soundboard back.

And you are welcome to come out anytime and look it over, whether it is playable at the time or not - send me a message!

Sam

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#1903046 - 05/25/12 04:01 PM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: schwammerl]
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#1903072 - 05/25/12 05:03 PM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: schwammerl]
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[/quote]struggling to make the case look presentable[quote]


what does sit look like now? damage? fading? cracking? cloudy finish on top? post a pic. i learned how to make the case look presentable (in my living room) when i bought a 1916 mason&hamlin grand 6 months ago. maybe i can help.

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#1903089 - 05/25/12 05:33 PM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: onesurfer1]
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Originally Posted By: onesurfer1
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struggling to make the case look presentable
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what does sit look like now? damage? fading? cracking? cloudy finish on top? post a pic. i learned how to make the case look presentable (in my living room) when i bought a 1916 mason&hamlin grand 6 months ago. maybe i can help.


Thanks, 95% of it looks OK - black satin finish. But there's missing veneer, rubbed off spots, and scratches that look like someone tried to color them in with a magic marker. And there is a smushed corner on the top that I already replaced with new wood. My plan is to repair the bad spots, touch up the rest, and finish with black shellac - satin. Sound reasonable? I'm not after a perfect finish, just something that won't embarrass me too much.

Sam

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#1903237 - 05/25/12 11:50 PM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: Sam S]
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[/quote]I'm not after a perfect finish, just something that won't embarrass me too much.[quote]


go to Rockler and ask for a MANAGER. ask him who is an expert in the field of refinishing wood. show him pictures. buy a scrap piece of wood and practice on that. this will help you learn and build your confidence. next, practice on the bottom of your music desk. then do you're ready to refinish your lid. OR, you could take your lids to a furniture reupholster shop and ask how much to spray a black lacquer on it. shouldn't be more than $200 if you go to the ghetto part of town.

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i went to all the hardware stores around my area and wasted hundreds of dollars on bad advice...bought everything on the market that's available to make old finishes look like new.

i refinished my M&H model A in my living room. i only used a sanding machine on the lid on my balcony (11th floor). no chemicals. no stinky smelly crap. just shellac flakes dissolved in alcohol (has to be like 100 proof or so) [it's called french polish). ...actually i did use a chemical or to. the finish stripper was a chemical and the red dye...i'm not sure if it was a natural dye or not.

anyway, i wouldn't recommend it to anyone. it was 10x harder than i thought...but end of story is that i DID it and it looks great. when i bought it it had it's original brown finish w black specks on it from 1916 w damage to the finish (sun fading, cloudy lid, cracking finish on s-curve) it looked liked it belonged to grandma. now it looks brand new ;o)

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#1903240 - 05/25/12 11:52 PM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: schwammerl]
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last word of advice on your finish...if you just want something that isn't embarrassing to look at...you could always just touch up the scratches with a black stain finish. then use a wipe-on water based or oil base for a shiny finish over the old finish and call it a day. i would do this to the bottom of your music desk and see if it's satisfactory to your liking.

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#1903532 - 05/26/12 03:41 PM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: schwammerl]
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Loc: Philadelphia area
Great Post! Who is the pianist?

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#1903893 - 05/27/12 12:21 PM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: onesurfer1]
Rich Galassini Offline
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Loc: Philadelphia/South Jersey
Originally Posted By: onesurfer1
[quote]i refinished my M&H model A in my living room. i only used a sanding machine on the lid on my balcony (11th floor). no chemicals. no stinky smelly crap. just shellac flakes dissolved in alcohol (has to be like 100 proof or so) [it's called french polish). ...actually i did use a chemical or to. the finish stripper was a chemical and the red dye...i'm not sure if it was a natural dye or not.

anyway, i wouldn't recommend it to anyone. it was 10x harder than i thought...but end of story is that i DID it and it looks great. when i bought it it had it's original brown finish w black specks on it from 1916 w damage to the finish (sun fading, cloudy lid, cracking finish on s-curve) it looked liked it belonged to grandma. now it looks brand new ;o)


Pictures would be great, onesurfer1.
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#1903972 - 05/27/12 03:08 PM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: schwammerl]
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The 1926 film is fascinating. Wonderful footage of Berlin in the 1920's - a mere 86 years ago.
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#1904273 - 05/28/12 06:59 AM Re: C. Bechstein, still in the old days (1926) [Re: schwammerl]
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Originally Posted By: schwammerl
Below is a movie about C. Bechstein from 1926 when the factory was still located in Berlin (quite long - 26 min.):

C. Becshtein: 1926 - Berlin

schwammerl.


That was wonderful! Thank you for sharing it with us.

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