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#1912510 - 06/12/12 08:49 PM Re: Non-Rant - EBVT vs ET - Civillian Pianist [Re: Bill Bremmer RPT]
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Originally Posted By: Bill Bremmer RPT
Oh WOW!!! Somebody in Emmery's area wants their piano tuned in the EBVT!!! This is truly unprecedented! I have never known an advertising campaign to be so effective!


Totally uncalled for Bill.
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#1912515 - 06/12/12 09:09 PM Re: Non-Rant - EBVT vs ET - Civillian Pianist [Re: Olek]
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Originally Posted By: Kamin

The reports I had is that part of it is good and part of it irritating wink


Well I've had "reports" from people about movies or songs or cars which people have liked or disliked and I've always found that their "reports" often had nothing to do with my own subsequent "report".

Remember, a "report" is nothing more than a personal "opinion" and when it comes to myself I only decide something after researching or experiencing an issue personally.


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But talking about stability, good to you if you can pay for tunings often, most of my customers prefer some maintenance and tunings less often. 6 months for the ones that play. A lot, but way less once the instrument is. Stable for many of them.


Considering that any piano in ET that gets somewhat out of tune is often further out than EBVT3 is from ET I don't see how any of this insinuation of a "lack of stability" is going to fly.

I may not be a professional piano tuner personally (although I regularly tuned my old Emerson upright myself) but I have taken several university Physics courses in Sound Theory so I am very much interested in experiencing something other than ET on my piano in order to see how it sits with my brain PERSONALLY.

Although my tuner prefers ET personally he has stated that he has absolutely no problem tuning it EBVT for me if I so wish.
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#1912531 - 06/12/12 09:54 PM Re: Non-Rant - EBVT vs ET - Civillian Pianist [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Sparky, funny that you say that. Often times I hate movies that end up getting good reviews, and end up liking ones that got totally panned.
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#1912650 - 06/13/12 03:20 AM Re: Non-Rant - EBVT vs ET - Civillian Pianist [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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I also prefer something true to somethong perfect. If you where kerping concert pianos in tune you would understoo what I mean about stability.

Having the wire and the tuning pin in its prefered place ( ever noticed how pin and wire seem to come back to a previously knokn place when tuning, Loren? ) is a long task and tuners are attentive not to change too drastically a concert piano.
But any experience is possible without real harm.. no problem there.

In The main problem of a generation of tuners there is that thir tuning method directly address beats, leaving the whple tone apart. Hopefully many tuners dont really listen and simply tune the piano.
The need for logical explanations and a simplified method makes those strange tunings nzmed ET in some part of the world. They are often poorly consonant for a reason that escapes me but that I suppose is what I said above. Then any new harmony would be prefered. In regions where tuninv is more learned by doing. the result is more surprizing to the ear and no need for added contrast between tonalities is perceived.
Sorry to say that most tunings I heard have the aspect of good tuning but the body and heart is rare. It may be easier then for tthe tuner to work from an UT.
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#1912715 - 06/13/12 08:19 AM Re: Non-Rant - EBVT vs ET - Civillian Pianist [Re: Olek]
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Originally Posted By: Kamin
Welcome Trtibbs , it is good to see new people on the forum
Thank you for your welcome, Kamin.
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