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#1913902 - 06/15/12 08:51 AM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: PianoZac]
ando Offline
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Originally Posted By: Zac Forbes
What do you love about the AG bennevis if I may ask? Can't be the sound, as you've pointed out its lack of dynamic range, and the action you feel is stiffer than any concert grand you've played. Not being smart, just curious. Surely the VPG has a bit more warmth than the VP with its speakers and cabinet.


I don't think he really does.

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#1913917 - 06/15/12 09:41 AM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: PianoZac]
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Originally Posted By: Zac Forbes
What do you love about the AG bennevis if I may ask?


What he likes is that the construction of the AG series lends itself to being easily hoisted underneath a helicopter and air-lifted onto the tops of the mountains he's forever scrabbling up (although he doesn't like to talk about it much, being the modest type) - then he plays chopsticks on the summit in a wanton act of self-indulgence - before abseiling down the other side. For this he holds the rope in one hand and with the other he tweets his achievements via his iPhone and updates his Facebook page - he loves his hi-tech gadgets too remember. He then has a pre-arranged rendezvous with a speedboat at the nearest coastline from where he water-skis home (across oceans if necessary).
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#1913974 - 06/15/12 11:47 AM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: EssBrace]
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Originally Posted By: EssBrace
Originally Posted By: Zac Forbes
What do you love about the AG bennevis if I may ask?


What he likes is that the construction of the AG series lends itself to being easily hoisted underneath a helicopter and air-lifted onto the tops of the mountains he's forever scrabbling up (although he doesn't like to talk about it much, being the modest type) - then he plays chopsticks on the summit in a wanton act of self-indulgence - before abseiling down the other side. For this he holds the rope in one hand and with the other he tweets his achievements via his iPhone and updates his Facebook page - he loves his hi-tech gadgets too remember. He then has a pre-arranged rendezvous with a speedboat at the nearest coastline from where he water-skis home (across oceans if necessary).


Bingo!
For once you've got it right grin.

P.S. My innate modesty forbids me to elaborate further grin.
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#1913997 - 06/15/12 12:22 PM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: voxpops]
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My innate modesty forbids me from elaborating further

Oh DO tell. We are agog.
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#1914003 - 06/15/12 12:30 PM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: ando]
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Originally Posted By: ando
Originally Posted By: Zac Forbes
What do you love about the AG bennevis if I may ask? Can't be the sound, as you've pointed out its lack of dynamic range, and the action you feel is stiffer than any concert grand you've played. Not being smart, just curious. Surely the VPG has a bit more warmth than the VP with its speakers and cabinet.


I don't think he really does.


You're partly right: I was parodying someone else... grin

However, I actually do enjoy playing it for short periods - but only to give my fingers a bit of a workout, not for anything serious. I often play fast runs and tricky figurations etc from various pieces I've been practising at home on it when I'm at Yamaha before their lunchtime concerts. It's great for this kind of thing, because the problems inherent in sampling aren't really that noticeable then, and I'm concentrating on my technique rather than the music. The lack of 'connectivity' (when compared to my V-P or any acoustic piano) and the constant reminder that I can't push it to extremes (because it won't respond as I expect it to) is for me a serious drawback if I want to play any heavy stuff.

Zac Forbes,
I've only played the VPG once in a venue it's probably designed for, a concert hall, and yes, it does sound better than my V-P through my headphones. But then I suppose any piano will sound better in that venue because of the warmth of the acoustic. And the VPG through its speakers sound to the pianist sitting at the keyboard as you'd expect a real grand to sound, at a 'natural distance' from my ears. When I was playing it at full pelt (at the Britten Theatre, RCM) last year, another punter walked all around the VPG to listen intently to see if he could detect any artificial spotlighting of different frequencies from some locations, but told me everything sounded as natural as if it was from a real concert grand. So obviously Roland had done their homework and placed the various speakers of various sizes (?tweeters and mid-range and woofers) in the best places within the cabinet.
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#1914027 - 06/15/12 12:53 PM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: toddy]
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Originally Posted By: toddy
My innate modesty forbids me from elaborating further

Oh DO tell. We are agog.


Aw, OK then (overriding my innate modesty with great difficulty... grin).

First, I don't 'scrabble' up mountains - I scramble if I'm using my hands. More usually, I front-point with my crampons (the mountains are very high, after all, and therefore, by the laws of nature, there'll be snow and ice grin).

And I don't play chopsticks at the summit - it's too difficult for my present level of technique (but I'm working on it). I play the beginning of R. Strauss's Also sprach Zarathustra, in my own (very easy) piano transcription. Or the 'arrival at the summit' scene from the same composer's Alpine Symphony, again in my own very easy transcription.

The rest are as our friend so vividly describes.... grin
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#1914037 - 06/15/12 01:06 PM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: voxpops]
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Gosh!

Are you or have you ever been a nun?
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#1914052 - 06/15/12 01:28 PM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: voxpops]
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Elsewhere on this forum (but not here, mind you!), Bennevis has just revealed that:

Quote:
I always keep a cover over my V-P's keyboard - actually it covers the whole of the slab - if I'm cooking (the kitchen area is only a few feet away from the V-P)


Man! (or indeed 'Woman!' as the case may be), you put ordinary folk such as ourselves in a very inferior position, you know. Just by discussing your day to day arrangements.

Cooking & Climbing
Tundra and tropics,
Ice and fire
Rodgers and Hammerstein
Nietzsche and ......

What else? Where is this all leading?
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#1914053 - 06/15/12 01:28 PM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: toddy]
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Originally Posted By: toddy
Gosh!

Are you or have you ever been a nun?


I enjoy singing hits from 'The Sound of Music', accompanying myself on the guitar or piano. Does that suggest anything to you? grin
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#1914054 - 06/15/12 01:28 PM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: toddy]
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or batman
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#1914058 - 06/15/12 01:35 PM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: bennevis]
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Loc: Atlanta GA USA
Originally Posted By: bennevis
I was playing it at full pelt (at the Britten Theatre, RCM)


Randy's Chicken Market?


Edited by bfb (06/15/12 01:37 PM)
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#1914061 - 06/15/12 01:39 PM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: toddy]
bennevis Offline
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Originally Posted By: toddy
Elsewhere on this forum (but not here, mind you!), Bennevis has just revealed that:

Quote:
I always keep a cover over my V-P's keyboard - actually it covers the whole of the slab - if I'm cooking (the kitchen area is only a few feet away from the V-P)


Man! (or indeed 'Woman!' as the case may be), you put ordinary folk such as ourselves in a very inferior position, you know. Just by discussing your day to day arrangements.

Cooking & Climbing
Tundra and tropics,
Ice and fire
Rodgers and Hammerstein
Nietzsche and ......

What else? Where is this all leading?



To a baring of my innermost Freudian, Jungian psychoanalytic soul? grin
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#1914068 - 06/15/12 01:59 PM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: bfb]
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Originally Posted By: bfb
Originally Posted By: bennevis
I was playing it at full pelt (at the Britten Theatre, RCM)


Randy's Chicken Market?

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#1914069 - 06/15/12 02:02 PM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: bennevis]
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Originally Posted By: bennevis
Originally Posted By: toddy
Where is this all leading?


To a baring of my innermost Freudian, Jungian psychoanalytic soul? grin


You're a braver man/woman than me, bennevis. You'd all need PTSD treatment if I bared mine. eek
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#1914102 - 06/15/12 03:18 PM Re: The V(itriol) Thread [Re: voxpops]
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Originally Posted By: voxpops
Originally Posted By: bfb
Originally Posted By: bennevis
I was playing it at full pelt (at the Britten Theatre, RCM)


Randy's Chicken Market?



well that would explain the earlier post that the vpiano needed a cover as its near the kitchen...


Edited by bfb (06/15/12 03:19 PM)
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