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#1917477 - 06/22/12 08:19 PM Sticking to the piano bench
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I'm sure I'm not the only one to experience this...You're tuning a spinet and you get up from the bench and oops, you stick to it...So, does anyone have a way to not stick to the bench? After the fact, is there a good way to clean it up?
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#1917487 - 06/22/12 08:45 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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Wear pants?
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#1917488 - 06/22/12 08:45 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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Scott....try this...light, and easy to carry around, and very easy on the back and posterior, no more sticking! smile I have one that I use whenever I am sitting at the piano...works really well.
and your back will love it. In fact, it was a posting here on PW that alerted me to the product. smile

Tush-Cush

http://www.amazon.com/Large-FIRM-Tush-Cush-Cushion/dp/B00080UO8A

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#1917496 - 06/22/12 08:59 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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I have come across benches that stick to your behind, or at least show a perfect "thumbprint" of your derriere after a tuning session. Usually this is caused by the finish being softened through applications of furniture polish, dusting sprays, lemon oil and the like.
I always tell clients to not use any of these kind of products on their piano.
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#1917504 - 06/22/12 09:24 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: Supply]
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grin

LOL... I second the motion.. "Wear Pants" ha ... and make sure you don't >> .. pass gas on some of those pitch raises.... heehee!!!

This is way..WAY!.. too funny!...
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#1917516 - 06/22/12 09:58 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
Jerry Groot RPT Offline
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Actually, that thing pictured in the picture works extremely well to put in the car if you are going on a long car ride. place it on your seat and it will be more comfortable and keep you butt from getting so sore. and buzz itis safe to pass gas on that ha ha.
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#1917531 - 06/22/12 10:46 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
Ryan Hassell Offline
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Scott,

I have the same problem too...Glad to know, I'm not the only one. I thought it was just me and that I was just an excessive butt sweater.. LOL! I've even stuck to benches when wearing jeans. I've sometimes taken a towel and folded it in half and sat on it, but sometimes that too has stuck to the finish in the bench. I try to move to different locations on the bench as I tune. Might have to order a tush-cush.
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#1917535 - 06/22/12 11:13 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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Waxed paper would probably work, but I have always thought that if I leave an imprint, someone else will, too.
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#1917645 - 06/23/12 08:34 AM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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After having a few embarrassing episodes of this, I usually ask if the customer has a kitchen chair, one without arms, that I could use instead of the bench. I then offer to carry the chair into the piano room myself.
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#1917681 - 06/23/12 10:59 AM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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Quote:
Wear pants?


Why didn't I think of that?!

Wise guy eh? Nyuk, nyuk smirk
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#1917683 - 06/23/12 11:01 AM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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Thanks for the cushion idea. I tried using one at one time and it made me sit too high frown
Maybe I had the wrong kind.
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#1917697 - 06/23/12 11:49 AM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
Silverwood Pianos Offline
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For the most part the body heat is melting the wax build up on top of the old finish. It is the buildup that retains the heat and the continual change in temp that eventually causes permanent damage to the finish.

If one uses white vinegar to strip away the wax usually a lot of the old finish comes off too.
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#1917807 - 06/23/12 06:25 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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Loc: USA
I carry a folded up regular pillow case in my tool kit for this purpose. I've also experienced what appeared to be urine (from a child?!) on the bench. Yuck!
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#1917827 - 06/23/12 07:24 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: ScottyBuzz]
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Originally Posted By: ScottyBuzz
grin

LOL... I second the motion.. "Wear Pants" ha ... and make sure you don't >> .. pass gas on some of those pitch raises.... heehee!!!

This is way..WAY!.. too funny!...


Sorry to butt in (ooops) on this thread, you all have me cracking up! I was wondering just today, when my almost-10 year old BOY was going to stop with the "fart" jokes and noises.

I see I have a ways to go....

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#2023500 - 01/29/13 02:56 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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Loc: Angier,NC
So Joy, that's your story and you are sticking to it!
Wayne

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#2023506 - 01/29/13 03:21 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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There are some old pianos here in Canada that have a crackled aligator skin type of finish on them and these will leave a prominant whitish imprint of your butt if you perspire on them. in fact, I think part of it is to do with heat also because a dry hot coffee cup will do the same thing. Sometimes the whitish mark dissapears after a while, on some others it can stay there fairly permanent if the object is hot enough.
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#2023511 - 01/29/13 03:24 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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I'm a-gassed. This old thread has wafted its way back into the room.

Meanwhile, back at the bench, Scott still finds himself stuck to his duties.
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#2023515 - 01/29/13 03:30 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: Jerry Groot RPT]
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Jerry,
It may be safe for YOU to pass the gas but what about the rest of us in the room with you!
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#2023525 - 01/29/13 03:55 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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Registered: 03/14/08
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Loc: France
Originally Posted By: That Guy
I'm sure I'm not the only one to experience this...You're tuning a spinet and you get up from the bench and oops, you stick to it...So, does anyone have a way to not stick to the bench? After the fact, is there a good way to clean it up?

Sit on a tissue, you have a tissue with you ? it have many uses, the pants may accept a little polish or a little dust depending what the fabrics is intended too.

Second option, sell a new bench to your customers as they are experimenting a similar effect

3d option, ask your grand ma to make some nice brodery you can sell (give a small fee to grandma if you want others)

4th option : tune standing (not for spinets evidently) I do so most of the time, I can confirm it is not excellent for the neck
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#2023545 - 01/29/13 04:44 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
Silverwood Pianos Offline
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Loc: Vancouver B. C. Canada

Originally Posted By: Emmery
There are some old pianos here in Canada that have a crackled aligator skin type of finish on them and these will leave a prominant whitish imprint of your butt if you perspire on them. in fact, I think part of it is to do with heat also because a dry hot coffee cup will do the same thing. Sometimes the whitish mark dissapears after a while, on some others it can stay there fairly permanent if the object is hot enough.


It is the heat that makes the old finish soft enough for it to grab moisture out of the air causing the whitish cloudiness.
Spray a light coat over top and this melts the surface momentarily and allows the moisture to escape previous to the finish setting hard again.

Wiping a methyl hydrate soaked rag over top of old lacquer or shellac will do the same thing. The surface melts for a few seconds, grabs moisture out of the air and sets leaving whitish streaks in the finish. Spray a top coat and the white disappears.
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#2024237 - 01/30/13 07:17 PM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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I think I've been the "butt" of this thread long enough... smirk
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#2024457 - 01/31/13 05:59 AM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: Silverwood Pianos]
Olek Online   content
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Loc: France
Originally Posted By: Silverwood Pianos

Originally Posted By: Emmery
There are some old pianos here in Canada that have a crackled aligator skin type of finish on them and these will leave a prominant whitish imprint of your butt if you perspire on them. in fact, I think part of it is to do with heat also because a dry hot coffee cup will do the same thing. Sometimes the whitish mark dissapears after a while, on some others it can stay there fairly permanent if the object is hot enough.


It is the heat that makes the old finish soft enough for it to grab moisture out of the air causing the whitish cloudiness.
Spray a light coat over top and this melts the surface momentarily and allows the moisture to escape previous to the finish setting hard again.

Wiping a methyl hydrate soaked rag over top of old lacquer or shellac will do the same thing. The surface melts for a few seconds, grabs moisture out of the air and sets leaving whitish streaks in the finish. Spray a top coat and the white disappears.




That is, on Nitro (well known for the whitish clouds) , or are PU also sensitive ?
For the Nitro, special formulas are sold, which seem to be a mix of NItro solvent and alcohol, they do what you say, melt a little the surface and allow it to tense back (sometime)

DO that on shellac and you will ruin the surface ("burn" the shellac) On alcohol based products only alcohol(s) may be used. (you will not find a piano bench French polished, however)


Edited by Olek (01/31/13 06:03 AM)
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#2024530 - 01/31/13 09:45 AM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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Once PU is set there is no melting of the upper surface from heat that I am aware of except when buffing or polishing with a wheel.
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#2024575 - 01/31/13 10:58 AM Re: Sticking to the piano bench [Re: That Guy]
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I had the opposite problem once. I showed up to play a service on the organ in a church in Germany, wearing dress pants, double knit or something equally slippery. I noticed custodial services had just done the annual "deep cleaning," but did not realize they'd waxed the heck out of the organ bench. I hopped up on it (they're high to clear the pedals) and...just kept going, sliding right across it.
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