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Hi, I'm working on Can't Help Falling In Love, the Elvis ballad. The words fall-ing-in is a Gminor chord progression, starts with G minor in first inversion. Bb below middle C and D held for a half note, then a run-up of G, A and Bb, all three above middle C. The left hand has a similar run-up, an octave below at the same time, but going in the reverse direction, Bb, A and G.
But I find it very difficult to play the right hand part. It seems most logical to use the 1 and 2 fingers for the Bb-D and 3-5 for the G-A-Bb, but it's so hard to control the 3rd to 5th fingers to play it in a smooth legato.
Is there an alternative way to play this and get the same effect, a different voicing?
For reviewing, here is the progression again:
RH: BbD (chord - half note) + G-A-Bb (single notes progression - triplets.) LH: Bb-A-G (single notes progression - triplets)
Me on YouTubeCasio PX-5S. Garritan CFX, Production Grand 2 Gold, Concert Grand LE, AcousticSamples C7, some Sampletekks. Pianoteq 8 Std (Blüthner, SteinGraeber, NY/HB Steinway D).
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You can play octaves in the right hand, G-A-Bflat, with the fingering 1/4, 1/5, 1/4, so you play legato. Also use a bit of pedal.
I also suggest strengthening your fingers and agility with scales, arpeggios, Hanon and Pischna exercises.
On the piano stand: Widmung Partita in c minor Jardins sous la pluie
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One way to simplify it, would be to play the right hand G, A Bb, with fingers 2, 3 ,4, whilst holding down the F above middle C, with finger 1 (thumb). (left hand remains as you have it)
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Thanks for suggestions. Bex, I saw that done in a YouTube tutorial, sounded just fine. I also saw someone just skipped the middle Bb and held only the D while playing the G-A-Bb run up. Doesn't sound bad at all.
R0B, I tried this and it sounded great. By adding the F, doesn't it make it a Bb major chord instead of a G minor? Just wondering if it's musically correct, probably is. After all Bb major is used all over in the song, which is in the key of F major.
Me on YouTubeCasio PX-5S. Garritan CFX, Production Grand 2 Gold, Concert Grand LE, AcousticSamples C7, some Sampletekks. Pianoteq 8 Std (Blüthner, SteinGraeber, NY/HB Steinway D).
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Adding the F, when played together with the G, makes it more a Bb6, and when you get to the Bb in the right hand, together with the G in the left, it turns into a Gm7.
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I see. I'm not good at those sixth, sevenths (and on) chords. However it seems that this book I'm using, just gives the basic underlying chords for the melody. The chord symbols obviously don't include each and every note being played. There are three staves, two treble and one bass. On top there are the chord symbols, also in tablature form, for the guitarists.
To give an example, the chord progression I mentioned, BbD plus G-A-Bb, is marked with the chord symbol Gm (G minor chord.) But we all know A does not occur in a G minor chord. That would perhaps make it a Gm9 chord (minus the seventh.)
That brings another question, is a ninth chord also a seventh chord? I get the feeling the seventh is often included, am I wrong?
Me on YouTubeCasio PX-5S. Garritan CFX, Production Grand 2 Gold, Concert Grand LE, AcousticSamples C7, some Sampletekks. Pianoteq 8 Std (Blüthner, SteinGraeber, NY/HB Steinway D).
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Yes, the seventh is included in a ninth chord, e.g. C9 = C, E, G, Bb and D. ( the 'C' often played an octave lower, in the left hand)
When the seventh is omitted, it is a Cadd9.
Just for added info, C, D, G (omitting the 3rd, 'E') is a Csus2 chord, and C, F, G, is a Csus4.
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Oh yes, the sus chords are another chapter, I've not gotten to them yet. Although there was an Em7sus4 chord in that Yesterday I played last May. At this moment in time I like to have major and minor chords, with sevenths and sixths in between. I can manage that, though I plan to learn the more advanced stuff later.
Me on YouTubeCasio PX-5S. Garritan CFX, Production Grand 2 Gold, Concert Grand LE, AcousticSamples C7, some Sampletekks. Pianoteq 8 Std (Blüthner, SteinGraeber, NY/HB Steinway D).
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