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#1927537 - 07/16/12 01:08 PM How to convert existing piano to play piano rolls?
Kujiraya Offline
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How to convert existing piano to play piano rolls?

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#1929484 - 07/20/12 05:27 AM Re: How to convert existing piano to play piano rolls? [Re: Kujiraya]
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There used to be vorsetzer players that could be pushed up to a piano's keyboard. Mechanical fingers would press on the keys. This is the only way which is practical for most pianos. Nothing like that is made today, and the old players are quite rare. Many of them would not play 88 key rolls.

I believe that there have been adapters that could read a roll and convert it to a signal that could activate a modern player. Again, they were not common and they are not made today.

For most people, it is far easier and cheaper just to get an old player piano and repair it so it can play rolls again. While it might be possible to make a new player mechanism from available parts, it will be much more difficult and expensive than rehabilitating an old player.
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#1947618 - 08/23/12 02:02 AM Re: How to convert existing piano to play piano rolls? [Re: Kujiraya]
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BDB is right, the most economical way to play rolls is to find a used player piano, buy it, and then fix up whetever is needed. I have seen working player pianos for $250-$2,500 in my local market, but you may have to take some time to find one in good working order.

The old upright player pianos of the '20s were made about 4-6" deeper than non-player uprights. This was to accommodate the roll player mechanism. As such, it's often not possible to retrofit a roll player stack into an upright that wasn't designed to be a player piano.

Do you specifically want to play piano rolls? You can convert most upright and grand pianos to a player piano with a modern solenoid-based player kit, such as PianoDisc, Pianomation, LX, etc. Prices range from $5,000 to $10,000 installed. A hefty chunk of change, but the modern systems are fully "reproducing" player systems with expression. The LX is regarded as the best of these systems.

Most player pianos are not capable of dynamic expression except that which is controlled by the pianolist. There were some expression systems (DuoArt, Welte-Mignon, AMPICO), but these are rare today and very expensive to restore. For what it costs to restore one of these, you could likely acquire a 5'-6' grand piano and put an LX in it.
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#2036233 - 02/20/13 05:29 AM Re: How to convert existing piano to play piano rolls? [Re: Colin Dunn]
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For a full explanation of this process check out the above video.


http://flbeattutorials.com/converting-loops-to-piano-roll-notes-in-fl-studio/
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