Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
(ad) Pianoteq
Latest Pianoteq add-on instrument: U4 upright piano
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
PianoSupplies.com (150)
Piano Accessories Music Related Gifts Piano Tuning Equipment Piano Moving Equipment
We now offer Gift Certificates in our online store!
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Piano
Quick Links to Useful Stuff
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano Accessories
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#1926309 - 07/13/12 02:47 PM Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220
iExchange Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 18
Hello,

Recently i'm looking to buy my first digital piano. I'm just a beginner on piano playing and would like to go further more in the future. After some researching work, I have a few models on my list that suits my needs and fits my budget:
-Yamaha P95
-Casio PX-130
-Casio PX-330
-Casio AP-220

If you own any of them could you please tell me if you liked it and why?

Besides, I have a few questions:

1. What is the true difference between PX330 and PX130 besides the look and the additional features listed on the official site?
2. The one from the CELVIANO line(AP220) - people say that the weight and action feedback of keys on this one is closer to the real piano, is this true to your opinion?
3. Objective answers wanted: Do you think the sampling on the yamaha is better than those from casio I listed above?

Thank you very much and I really appreciate any help!


Edited by iExchange (07/13/12 02:52 PM)

Top
(ad) Roland

Click Here

#1926327 - 07/13/12 03:25 PM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
anotherscott Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/20/10
Posts: 3076
Originally Posted By: iExchange
What is the true difference between PX330 and PX130 besides the look and the additional features listed on the official site?

The listed differences are the differences.

Originally Posted By: iExchange
Objective answers wanted: Do you think the sampling on the yamaha is better than those from casio I listed above?

Objectively, based on specs, the Casio samples more layers, which is generally considered one aspect of "better." Subjectively, I think the Yamaha sounds much better. But it is indeed subjective, and some people on this forum feel otherwise.

Regardless, Casio has just announced replacements for the PX330 and PX130... they will soon be shipping the PX350 and PX150, which they say has a better piano sound and better action.

Top
#1926329 - 07/13/12 03:28 PM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: anotherscott]
iExchange Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 18
Thank you anotherscott!

But the price(MSRP) for PX350 and PX150 seems to be higher than the current PX330 and PX130?

Top
#1926371 - 07/13/12 04:41 PM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
RUSS SHETTLE Online   content
Full Member

Registered: 01/14/11
Posts: 269
Loc: Brandywine, Maryland
I would be more inclined to compare the Yamaha P155 to the Casio's in the price range. I loved my PX 130 and I still have it. The PX 150 just may turn out be a super board and I want check out their new line as soon as I can. I would wait. I don't know if Yamaha is soon to come out with anything new and improved.
_________________________
Russ
Yamaha CP5
Casio PX130
Yamaha AP Upright

Top
#1926508 - 07/13/12 11:28 PM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
ChrisA Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/28/08
Posts: 3841
Loc: Redondo Beach, California
Originally Posted By: iExchange
Hello,

Recently i'm looking to buy my first digital piano. I'm just a beginner on piano playing and would like to go further more in the future. After some researching work, I have a few models on my list that suits my needs and fits my budget:
-Yamaha P95
-Casio PX-130
-Casio PX-330
-Casio AP-220


My opinion: All Casios are alike except for cosmetics and some extra features like jacks in the rear, extra sounds and so on. The action, except maybe for the molded-in key top texture is the same on same generation casios.

The P95 uses Yamaha's low-end piano action. You have to move up to the P155 at least to get their better action. I'm a Yamaha fan except for the low-end action of the P95. I think Casio PX130 is the best of the $600 pianos and if you have any more money to spend go for Yamaha.

One more thing: Remember this is your FIRST piano not your last piano. You can sell it for half what you paid and upgrade in a year or two.

Top
#1926518 - 07/14/12 12:14 AM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
galaxy4t Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/28/08
Posts: 846
Loc: Lakewood, CA
Yes, the new models will cost roughly 50 percent more and it is not clear if the improvements justify the big jump in price. I imagine it will be late September or mid October before any of these are available to play in stores. It's not clear if they recorded a new piano sample or if they married the old sample to the new processor. That said, stores will probably be looking to clearance the old stock to make ready for the new shipments.


Edited by galaxy4t (07/14/12 12:17 AM)

Top
#1926539 - 07/14/12 02:44 AM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
iExchange Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 18
Thank you very much for all of your helpful comments and opinions!
As a summary I decided to go for P95 and move to something better like the P155 while selling the old p95 after I have mastered all the basic stuff.
Thank you!

Top
#1926581 - 07/14/12 07:34 AM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
Possum SP280Krome Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/23/10
Posts: 589
The P105 was just announced yesterday. Do you have 12 weeks to wait to try it out? At that point you could decide on the P105 or get a better deal on the P95.
_________________________
Roland Juno Gi
Casio PX-130
Korg Krome 61
Korg SP280

Rokit KRK 6 monitors
MXL V67G microphone

Top
#1926591 - 07/14/12 08:16 AM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
iExchange Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 18
Well I guess P105 is too late for me, but thank you very much for your reminder, Possum!

I went to the music store today and I was told that a few models are on sale. After some consulting with the salesperson and the specs list I guess I have a few more extra choices for me.

And I found that yamaha YDP141 is on sale at that store, do you think it is significantly better than the P95?

Please note that I could only try the P95 as others are not available for try outs in the store. I would love to have keys that are weighted like a real piano and more realistic accoustic piano sounds. Which one do you recommend?

Thanks a lot!


Edited by iExchange (07/14/12 10:07 AM)

Top
#1926688 - 07/14/12 12:38 PM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
RUSS SHETTLE Online   content
Full Member

Registered: 01/14/11
Posts: 269
Loc: Brandywine, Maryland
Actually, I think the YDP141 may have the same action as the P155. Maybe someone here could verify that. I think it would be a far better choice over the P95. It normally sells for nearly $1200 and if you're getting a super deal, jump on it. I don't know what deal you've been offered but I though you were in the $500 price range only. If $500 was your limit I think I would go with the PX130 but like I said before I'm only familiar with PX130 and was quite happy with the action and sound. You would still need something to put it on (a stand) and something to sit on which will be extra. At least you get all that with the YDP141.

Just checked it's different. The P155 has Polyphony (Max.): 128 where the YDP141 has 64. That tells me it's not the same sound engine and probably more like the 95. The PX130 has 128. I don't know about the action difference compared to the 95. I would scrape, beg, borrow or steel to the get the P155 instead.


Edited by RUSS SHETTLE (07/14/12 01:02 PM)
_________________________
Russ
Yamaha CP5
Casio PX130
Yamaha AP Upright

Top
#1926692 - 07/14/12 12:46 PM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
toddy Online   content
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 1320
Loc: Portugal
The Yamaha YDP 141 is the same keyboard as the P95 - it is the weakest of Yamaha's piano hammer systems. The YDP 161 has the better, standard, GH keyboard (same as the P155 stage keyboard). This is the same in terms of touch and response to the GH3 keybaord found on Yamaha's best Clavinovas. For that reason, I would always recommend the YDP 161 over the YDP 141. It also has better speakers and more powerful amplifiers.
_________________________
Roland HP 302, Yamaha SY85

Reaper / NI Komplete 9 /Kontakt 5// EWQL Sym Choirs/ Sym Orchestra Silver/ MOR2
Mics: SP B1 & MXL V67g/ Alesis MicTube Preamp/ Xenyx302/ Yamaha HS7s .

"Only a fool is fooled" pv88, All Fools' Day 2014.

Top
#1926703 - 07/14/12 01:02 PM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
iExchange Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 18
Thank you very much for your input!
I guess I will go for YDP 141 instead. I believe this can accompany me for at least 8 years?
Also this is more affordable for me.
Thank you again, and again to all of you who helped me here laugh

Top
#1926706 - 07/14/12 01:04 PM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
RUSS SHETTLE Online   content
Full Member

Registered: 01/14/11
Posts: 269
Loc: Brandywine, Maryland
I just added to my post above after checking the specs.
_________________________
Russ
Yamaha CP5
Casio PX130
Yamaha AP Upright

Top
#1926862 - 07/14/12 10:56 PM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
iExchange Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 18
Thank you Russ,
But P155 is not on sale right now here and it is not that affordable for me.
But anyways, thank you very much for your helpful information!

Top
#1926877 - 07/14/12 11:47 PM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
RUSS SHETTLE Online   content
Full Member

Registered: 01/14/11
Posts: 269
Loc: Brandywine, Maryland
iExchange,

Seriously, wait until the new line of Casio's come out. See the thread, here on PW "P95 and Casio PX-x30 series owners:-will you upgrade?" and read what Mike Martin from Casio has posted. I'm inclined to believe that the PX 150 is a considerable upgrade over the PX 130 for only about $100 more. Rather than me to explain it, just go to that post and read Mike's comments. I always thought the PX 130 was fantastic for the price and further improvements in sound and action as apparent to the 150 make it unbeatable.
_________________________
Russ
Yamaha CP5
Casio PX130
Yamaha AP Upright

Top
#1926890 - 07/15/12 12:09 AM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: RUSS SHETTLE]
iExchange Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 18
But I guess the lower tones from the PX130 is kind of ear piercing?
(I have tried it out this morning)

Top
#1926901 - 07/15/12 12:45 AM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: RUSS SHETTLE]
ChrisA Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/28/08
Posts: 3841
Loc: Redondo Beach, California
Quote:
Actually, I think the YDP141 may have the same action as the P155. Maybe someone here could verify that.


No. You have to move up to the YDP161 to to get the "GH" action. The cheaper "GHS" action is very different. Anyone can tell which is which is a few seconds

In terms of the piano action, the YDP141 is like a P95 and the YDP161 is like the P155. I tried the YDP161 and did not like the user interface. The P155 brings the most used features out to labeled push buttons while the YDP hide the features and makes you pull out the user manual. I ended up with a P155 because it was the least expensive piano with an acceptable (to me) piano action.

The YDP141 is an expensive version of the P95. You are paying for the wood-look case.

About the user interface. Try before you buy. Make up a test scenario like "set the metronome to exactly 118" or "delete the second recording on the USB memory stick" or "play string bass with left hand and grand piano with right." Try the each on each piano WITHOUT reading the user manual. No piano will pass 100% but some are much better than others




Edited by ChrisA (07/15/12 12:48 AM)

Top
#1926903 - 07/15/12 12:51 AM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
ChrisA Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/28/08
Posts: 3841
Loc: Redondo Beach, California
Originally Posted By: iExchange
Thank you very much for your input!
I guess I will go for YDP 141 instead. I believe this can accompany me for at least 8 years?
Also this is more affordable for me.
Thank you again, and again to all of you who helped me here laugh


8 years of "GHS" piano key action. I seriously doubt you will be able to stay with a GHS based piano that long. Your needs will change sooner than 8 years. At least I hope so.

Top
#1926999 - 07/15/12 07:22 AM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
iExchange Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 18
Thanks ChrisA,
But do you think the GHS/touch sensitivity/tones are improved in the YDP141? SInce YDP141 was released in 2010, and P95 was released in 2008.

Top
#1927013 - 07/15/12 08:38 AM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
Possum SP280Krome Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/23/10
Posts: 589
Although I have the P95; I think that YDP141 (and YDP140 for that matter) is a superior instrument. The YDP's have 3 layers of sampling and the audio quality despite the similar specs is better.

-I purchased the P95 over the YDP due to not wanting to deal with a console- the thought of having a 25 pound piano was too good.

Also, I agree with Russ- the $100 sounds good for the price increase on Casio; lets also note that all of these retailers will have their normal $100 off from time to time
_________________________
Roland Juno Gi
Casio PX-130
Korg Krome 61
Korg SP280

Rokit KRK 6 monitors
MXL V67G microphone

Top
#1927020 - 07/15/12 08:53 AM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: Possum SP280Krome]
iExchange Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 18
Thank you Possum for sharing more thoughts!

Well i'm not going to move it too much so I'm not worried about that and its OK for me.

You both are right though I believe, but I really can't wait that long for the new pianos from either casio or yamaha(as I really want to learn something more on the piano in this summer time).

Top
#1928840 - 07/19/12 01:28 AM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
amirall Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 07/17/12
Posts: 15
Any opinions on the AP-220 Celviano? I am in the same exact predicament as the OP, and was wondering whether to buy one already right now, or wait for (how many?) months for the prices to drop?

Top
#1929275 - 07/19/12 08:08 PM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: amirall]
Possum SP280Krome Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/23/10
Posts: 589
I liked sitting at the AP-220 and realize it has a nice price, i considered it in the same class as the YDP-141-
However, the AP-420 might be worth considering as you get better speakers and the ivory touch speaker. In my opinion, if you are getting an AP piano which comes in a 120 pound box, I would consider getting the 420.

I don't know if they use the same speakers- but I thought the sound on the PX830 was super

Russ- from your earlier post I thought you brought up a good point, maybe upgrading for something better- I am considering the 350 as opposed to the 150
_________________________
Roland Juno Gi
Casio PX-130
Korg Krome 61
Korg SP280

Rokit KRK 6 monitors
MXL V67G microphone

Top
#1929320 - 07/19/12 10:37 PM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
amirall Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 07/17/12
Posts: 15
Would it be advisable to buy now?

Top
#1929324 - 07/19/12 10:52 PM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: amirall]
Possum SP280Krome Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/23/10
Posts: 589
If I didn't own right now, I would wait 10-12 weeks to try out the new models rather than upgrade later on
_________________________
Roland Juno Gi
Casio PX-130
Korg Krome 61
Korg SP280

Rokit KRK 6 monitors
MXL V67G microphone

Top
#1929349 - 07/20/12 12:14 AM Re: Yamaha P95 vs Casio PX-130/330 vs Casio AP-220 [Re: iExchange]
galaxy4t Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/28/08
Posts: 846
Loc: Lakewood, CA
Chances are prices will drop on the Pxx-30 line once the new Privias hit the market. Casio hasn't announced the model line up for the Celvianos yet, but they will be similar to the Privias in terms of features, touch, and sound. The same keybeds, samples, and sound source are used. I suspect there will be different features on the top line Celviano model similar to what Casio has announced for the PX-850. I believe there will be real improvement in these new models as Casio appears to be serious about increasing market share and improving quality. They recently re-entered the synth market after a 20 year hiatus. The XW-P1 is one of the hottest products garnering attention right now. If you can wait a bit longer, it will probably be worth it.


Edited by galaxy4t (07/20/12 12:18 AM)

Top

Moderator:  Piano World 
What's Hot!!
HOW TO POST PICTURES on the Piano Forums
-------------------
Sharing is Caring!
About the Buttons
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
Interesting books about the piano, pianists, piano history, biographies, memoirs and more!
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
Sheet Music
(PW is an affiliate)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
Download & Print Sheet Music Instantly
sheet music search
sheet music search

sheet music search
(ad) HAILUN Pianos
Hailun Pianos - Click for More
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Who's Online
175 registered (accordeur, Almaviva, ando, 54 invisible), 1862 Guests and 57 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
74230 Members
42 Forums
153553 Topics
2250408 Posts

Max Online: 15252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
New Topics - Multiple Forums
OT: John Passion
by wimpiano
04/18/14 04:33 PM
3/4 time for 6/8 time comping patterns?
by Ben Ther
04/18/14 04:33 PM
Shanks with parallel wood grain
by JohnSprung
04/18/14 04:15 PM
Pinblocks & bridges... How long do they last?
by Piano Practice
04/18/14 03:58 PM
Spinoff: What do we think of "technique seminars"?
by TwoSnowflakes
04/18/14 02:46 PM
(ads by Google)

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2014 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission