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#1930693 - 07/22/12 12:54 PM MIDI over USB, to software that teaches how to read?
turnstyle Offline
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Hi all,

I've seen a few Web sites that offer music reading exercises. For example, you see a staff, then notes appear, and then you have to click an on-screen keyboard to indicate the right note.

It seems this would be much better if I could use my music keyboard, rather than having to click an on-screen keyboard.

If I have a keyboard that supports MIDI over USB, is there some good software that I could use on a PC to do something similar, that would help me learn to read?

Or, from the keyboard to an iPad?

For example, the software would present exercises, and I would use the MIDI to USB keyboard to progress through the lessons in the software?



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#1930708 - 07/22/12 01:48 PM Re: MIDI over USB, to software that teaches how to read? [Re: turnstyle]
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http://www.prestokeys.com/

The "pro" version lets you play using a MIDI keyboard. The basic version is free, so you can download and try it out with the on-screen keyboard to see whether you like it.

Note that there are lots of adjustments you can make to customize it to your level and your weak areas.
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#1930719 - 07/22/12 02:08 PM Re: MIDI over USB, to software that teaches how to read? [Re: turnstyle]
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I have E Media Software "Piano and Keyboard Method" I got mine from Amazon it's interactive with your keyboard. You can use the midi to usb interface to connect to your computer - which is also available at Amazon.

I think it's what your'e looking for.
It's a pretty good program -it lets you know when you hit a wrong key and grades you at the end on playing the right keys and if the timing was correct.

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#1930788 - 07/22/12 04:06 PM Re: MIDI over USB, to software that teaches how to read? [Re: turnstyle]
turnstyle Offline
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Thanks, these look very promising!

Anybody happen to know of something similar for an iPad?

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#1930811 - 07/22/12 04:42 PM Re: MIDI over USB, to software that teaches how to read? [Re: tangleweeds]
turnstyle Offline
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Originally Posted By: tangleweeds
http://www.prestokeys.com/

The "pro" version lets you play using a MIDI keyboard.


Can Presto provide hints for which fingers you're supposed to use?

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#1930813 - 07/22/12 04:49 PM Re: MIDI over USB, to software that teaches how to read? [Re: turnstyle]
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#1930922 - 07/22/12 09:14 PM Re: MIDI over USB, to software that teaches how to read? [Re: turnstyle]
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Originally Posted By: turnstyle
Originally Posted By: tangleweeds
http://www.prestokeys.com/

The "pro" version lets you play using a MIDI keyboard.

Can Presto provide hints for which fingers you're supposed to use?

No, it doesn't.
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#1931120 - 07/23/12 06:12 AM Re: MIDI over USB, to software that teaches how to read? [Re: tangleweeds]
turnstyle Offline
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Have any of you used both PrestoKeys and Synthesia? Just wondering how you compare them.

Also, is it easy to find MIDI files that work well with them? eg, MIDI files that have just the piano part? And does the software do a good job presenting the MIDI as staff music?

Thanks!

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#1931131 - 07/23/12 06:56 AM Re: MIDI over USB, to software that teaches how to read? [Re: turnstyle]
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There are errors in the sheet music display of Synthesia. For example if a note lasts for a length of a 7/8, it is shown as a whole note, there are no ties. Apart from that, it's okay and can be used for simpler pieces.

When you download Synthesia it comes with a package of MIDI files, but those are all non-copyrighted songs, mostly classical, traditional and folk songs. Corresponds roughly to the set downloadable at the following website.

http://gmajormusictheory.org/Freebies/freebies.html

It's a bit harder to get good MIDIs for copyrighted songs, usually I just make them myself from sheet books I have, or tutorial videos.
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#1931137 - 07/23/12 07:36 AM Re: MIDI over USB, to software that teaches how to read? [Re: TheodorN]
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Thanks, does Synthesia have a full-sheet view option? I saw a little sheet view in the video, but it was still mostly game view -- can you see just sheet music? If yes, can the sheet music both scroll and be static?

Do you find the game view helpful? (I'm a bit concerned the game view might teach bad habits.)

Thanks, these seem like potentially very helpful aides.

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#1931142 - 07/23/12 07:50 AM Re: MIDI over USB, to software that teaches how to read? [Re: turnstyle]
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You can drag the sheet music window almost down to the keyboard, but then the notes just get bigger, there's always just one row of bars. I use the sheet music view, which is only included in the bought version, there's a free version, only with the game view. But I also practise the old-fashioned way, with sheet music on paper and occasionally with Notation Composer, which has a better sheet music display and does not stop when you hit the wrong note.

Yes the game view might teach bad habits, if used a lot.
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