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#1936944 - 08/03/12 03:21 PM New Kawai CA-95 video...
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#1936953 - 08/03/12 03:32 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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Also noticed a CA-65 and ES7 video uploaded in the last 24 hours...exciting new demos laugh

CA-65
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTz0SRTg6...mp;feature=plcp

ES7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD6XvOXrk...mp;feature=plcp
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#1937005 - 08/03/12 05:05 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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nice !

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#1937167 - 08/04/12 04:09 AM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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Originally Posted By: Keegan


It sounds spectacular!

BTW: what is last melody, it looks Beethoven?!
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#1937212 - 08/04/12 08:49 AM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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Very professional. Rolandisque. Great videos.

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#1937214 - 08/04/12 09:04 AM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Qbert]
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#1937219 - 08/04/12 09:12 AM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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Yes, some nice videos, thanks for posting the links.

I believe that's the new upright piano sound in the boogy-woogy work out at the end of the German CA65 video. wink

Cheers,
James
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#1937266 - 08/04/12 11:00 AM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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James

Kawai makes mention of "88 Individually Weighted Keys"

Does that mean, like others, each key is weighted differently? Or, are there 3-4-5 banks of weights, each bank having the same weight?
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#1937334 - 08/04/12 02:14 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: McBuster]
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Originally Posted By: McBuster
And for the CA65


In English


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bKsgPVn5zY


Oops, my bad lol
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#1937336 - 08/04/12 02:16 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Qbert]
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Originally Posted By: Qbert
Originally Posted By: Keegan


It sounds spectacular!

BTW: what is last melody, it looks Beethoven?!


The melody at the end is from the same piece from the beginning of the video (Chopin - fantasie impromptu)
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#1937342 - 08/04/12 02:28 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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THX!
whistle


Edited by Qbert (08/04/12 02:28 PM)
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#1937408 - 08/04/12 06:31 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: McBuster]
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Originally Posted By: McBuster
Kawai makes mention of "88 Individually Weighted Keys"

Does that mean, like others, each key is weighted differently? Or, are there 3-4-5 banks of weights, each bank having the same weight?


Actually, "88 Individually Weighted Keys" was not something that I was aware of on the new CAs. I will have to double check this point with Kawai Europe.

Kind regards,
James
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#1937505 - 08/04/12 09:22 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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The exact words are " ... offers individually weighted keys ... " at 4:30.

+++

The intro piece is also one similar to what Yoki Wada used in the Yamaha "Clavinova CLP Series Demonstration Movie" on YouTube. The CLP-380PE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uijdYyYZUGI

Interesting ...
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#1937518 - 08/04/12 09:56 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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The piece is Chopin's 'Fantaisie-Impromptu'.
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#1937627 - 08/05/12 08:46 AM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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I see they've dug that same bloke up again; the one with the hideous pinky ring! Germany - the land that taste forgot!

I must be getting more fussy in my old age. The new ones sound ok for what they are. But nothing special. But honestly is any hardware DP really special?

And funnily enough they sound nothing like a Kawai acoustic. They (the Kawai acoustics) tend to have warmth and character that can be very beguiling. These DPs sound a bit thin to my ears.

I'm getting bored with DPs...

I've played a few acoustics lately and I'm under the spell of the dark side.
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#1937685 - 08/05/12 11:36 AM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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What's the difference between the ca65 and the ca95?
The main difference I see is greater speakers in the 95.

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#1937695 - 08/05/12 11:59 AM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: EssBrace]
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#1937796 - 08/05/12 03:56 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Dave Ferris]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Ferris
It's like these things don't give you any tactile feedback...


Honestly Dave I really think I've heard enough now to know that there isn't a DP that will make me happy. Until I can build on the back of my house I think I'm going to buy an upright piano - played a Yamaha U3 the other day - decent but very modest when compared to a good grand - but even that just stimulates all the senses in a way that is entrancing to someone who has played almost exclusively digitals. Kawai K series or Yamaha U series is what I'm mainly considering. Just got to find a sensible way to offload the AG. Then when the room is built a 6' grand is the plan.

I'll keep a stage piano for my little project room. Still liking the feel of the MP10 and still liking the sounds of the Nord Piano. But they lack so much! If I could be happy with the sound of a V-Piano that is what I'd choose because it's so much more dynamic than the others.

Anyway, back to my piano planning....
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#1937817 - 08/05/12 05:14 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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Perhaps the Physis then , as a competitor to the V-piano ? It's supposed to provide for a good keybed and dynamic physical modeling . But still no replacemtpent for an acoustic, simply because it isn't an acoustic ;-)

However, since it not sample based , it may have a more natural and dynamic connection between keybed and produced sound and be more lively than a sampling based piano. The rest can't be mimmicked , because it has no resonating body and acoustic casing that distributes the airwaves throught the air in a physical (natural) manner. Speakers can never replace that, neither the physical feedback a real instrument gives you for each small nuance. To have that 100% covered , you need a 100% acoustic ;-)

I personally regard a digital piano as an entity in its own, with it's own weaknesses and strengths and not as a true replacement for an acoustic. Usually the choice for a digital is purely pragmatic anyway; controllable volume (neighbours) , headphone possible, lightweight, not much space needed, no tuning necessarily , price...if everyone could have a concert grand in their house without problems regarding space, price, neighbours, maintenance and you could even fold them up and carry under your arm to a gig, the DP would not exist at all.

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#1937818 - 08/05/12 05:14 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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Perhaps the Physis then , as a competitor to the V-piano ? It's supposed to provide for a good keybed and dynamic physical modeling . But still no replacemtpent for an acoustic, simply because it isn't an acoustic ;-)

However, since it not sample based , it may have a more natural and dynamic connection between keybed and produced sound and be more lively than a sampling based piano. The rest can't be mimmicked , because it has no resonating body and acoustic casing that distributes the airwaves throught the air in a physical (natural) manner. Speakers can never replace that, neither the physical feedback a real instrument gives you for each small nuance. To have that 100% covered , you need a 100% acoustic ;-)

I personally regard a digital piano as an entity in its own, with it's own weaknesses and strengths and not as a true replacement for an acoustic. Usually the choice for a digital is purely pragmatic anyway; controllable volume (neighbours) , headphone possible, lightweight, not much space needed, no tuning necessarily , price...if everyone could have a concert grand in their house without problems regarding space, price, neighbours, maintenance and you could even fold them up and carry under your arm to a gig, the DP would not exist at all.

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#1937820 - 08/05/12 05:21 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: EssBrace]
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#1937827 - 08/05/12 05:37 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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Thanks Dave!

JFP - Good points. Physis does look promising and I think your point about seeing DPs as an entity in their own right is certainly valid.

Cheers,

Steve
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#2009117 - 01/04/13 07:31 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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Apologies for bumping an old thread, however I noticed that Kawai America have uploaded a great new CA95/CA65 video to their YouTube channel.



Cheers,
James
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#2009188 - 01/04/13 11:09 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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Thanks for the link KJ!

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#2009193 - 01/04/13 11:22 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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That's one of the better Kawai America videos I've seen. Makes me want a CA95. I guess that was the point. smile


Edited by gvfarns (01/04/13 11:22 PM)

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#2011733 - 01/09/13 02:26 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: gvfarns]
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That's one of the better Kawai America videos I've seen. Makes me want a CA95. I guess that was the point. smile


Works on me too. smile I'm planning to get my first DP in (hopefully) a few months, I've spent quite a few evenings researching, studying and skimming through forums/articles/review/you-name-it. I have finally ended up with a toss-up between the CLP 470 and the CA-95 and the scales are currently more in favor of the Kawai model. smile Still enough time to consider the pros and cons though.
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#2011758 - 01/09/13 03:21 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Clayman]
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Clayman, that video was one of the main reasons for myself deciding upon a CA95. I ordered mine last week and hopefully it should be delivered at the beginning of next week. I can't wait! It looks like a great DP and appears to be exceptional value for money. Without actually having mines yet I would say go for the CA95 as I believe that it is superior to not only the CLP470 but even the CLP480.
Hope this in some way helps you with your decision.

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#2011780 - 01/09/13 04:10 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Tom Tom]
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Yeah, thanks for the reply, Tom Tom. smile I really like the sound of the Kawai, it somehow feels "better/more pleasant" than Yamaha's but I have yet to hear both put next to each other and hear them "live". Also the extra features of the CA-95 might come in handy later on as well.

I've heard, however, that Kawai's key action is lighter than Yamaha's and I've been wondering how much of an issue (if any at all) that might or might not be. Since I'm a total beginner just getting into playing, I reckon I'm still malleable enough to get used to pretty much anything. I have also read in another thread here that Steinway pianos use even lighter key action than Kawai and I guess that's saying something as well.

I'd say it probably boils down to personal preference based on practical test. Guess I'll just have to sit down and try them both. smile

I hope your CA-95 lives up to your expectations, Tom Tom, and please do post your impressions when you receive it. wink
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#2011788 - 01/09/13 04:19 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Clayman]
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Originally Posted By: Clayman
I've heard, however, that Kawai's key action is lighter than Yamaha's and I've been wondering how much of an issue (if any at all) that might or might not be.


Unfortunately there's no consensus on that point. I know that my older Kawai (a few generations ago) has a heavier action than Yamaha GH actions I've played, but unfortunately I've never been able to test current Kawai and Yamaha digitals side by side. I've heard people say Kawai is heavier and others say Yamaha. Strange, since it seems to be objectively measurable. I think it might be a static vs. dynamic weight problem.

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#2011831 - 01/09/13 05:47 PM Re: New Kawai CA-95 video... [Re: Keegan]
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My impression is that the Yamaha GH action feels lighter than Kawai's or Roland's because of its lack of simulated 'let-off' mechanism. The latter two gives an obvious resistance to the finger once you reach that point, and from there on, which is the impression you also get from an acoustic grand. The Yamaha action is totally smooth all the way down, and though it may not be any lighter when you measure the downweight using coins, once the key goes down, it goes all the way down to the bottom, whereas with Kawai and Roland, the key stops at that 'notch'.

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