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#1940144 - 08/10/12 02:37 AM SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT
music-P Offline
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Registered: 05/22/12
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Loc: Philippines
guys i need help again

i found this plain looking schimmel in our old country philippines. schimmel piano is incredible and i was surprised finding one in our place with a low price but i was disappointed when i found the seal

it was quite differnt from the seals i know from schimmel but in the seal i found the two images of the seals i know in the bottom of the seal of the unverified schimmel upright

would the techies and specialists verify this schimmel upright

here are the pictures

ok there are the pics
can you help me pls

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#1940145 - 08/10/12 02:41 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]
music-P Offline
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Loc: Philippines
and guys if you can tell me what model is this?

#1940148 - 08/10/12 03:04 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]
ando Offline
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Registered: 11/23/10
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Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Looks like it needs a fair bit of work - whether it's a Schimmel or not. This might turn out to be an expensive "cheap" piano.

#1940166 - 08/10/12 04:41 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]
Gregor Offline
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Registered: 10/31/08
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Looks like a Fake: wrong seal, muffler rail construction, case....

Parts of the case are similiar to the model 112/5 E, but only parts.

piano tech - tuner - dealer
Münster, Germany

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#1940196 - 08/10/12 07:30 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: Gregor]
music-P Offline
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hey gregor i found this pic of the model you told the seal looks like the same. try to compare

#1940227 - 08/10/12 09:24 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]
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Registered: 06/02/12
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Loc: Santa Clara, CA
I wasn't familiar with the name "Handok", so I Googled it. Here is what I found. Not sure if this helps you determine if it is a fake. At least we know it wasn't made in Germany.

Handok pianos, which ceased piano production in 1995. were manufactured by the Handok (Korean-German) Piano Manufacturing Company. Handok (president Woon-Kwang Paek), founded in 1972. began by building piano components: ACTION and HAMMER head, In 1974 Handok established a joint-venture enterprise with Saito Action Manufacturing Company in Hamamatsu. Japan, and manufactured actions exclusively for export In 1976 Handok acquired an agreement for technical cooperation from German piano-maker SCHIMMEL and building upright pianos of the German Schimmel models; the agreement with Schimmel expired in 1986. Handok produced only upright pianos, and its pianos were sold mainly on the export market. Up to 1989 Handok produced about two thousand pianos per year. However, the 1990-1991 production figures decreased to only about one thousand pianos because at that time the company was in the process of moving into a new plant In 1995 Handok ceased its piano production entirely
Schimmel 130T

#1940250 - 08/10/12 10:13 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]
Pianolance Offline
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You learn something new every day if you log into pianoworld. Very interesting indeed.
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#1940266 - 08/10/12 10:42 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]
music-P Offline
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Loc: Philippines
to make it clear
handok created this piano or only its action

#1940291 - 08/10/12 11:39 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]
Norbert Offline
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Registered: 07/03/01
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Loc: Surrey, B.C.
Philippines has a lot of fake German makes and I feel sorry for the people buying them.

My wife is from there and has seen this happening quite a bit when visiting the occasional store when there. The sales people often don't know the difference and are simply told by the boss.

Buyers beware...

Norbert tiki
Greater Vancouver B.C. piano dealers for : Estonia, Brodmann, Ritmuller

#1940300 - 08/10/12 11:53 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: Norbert]
music-P Offline
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Loc: Philippines
hey thanks nobert
for that

Edited by music-P (08/10/12 12:24 PM)

#1940302 - 08/10/12 11:55 AM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]
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Edited by music-P (08/31/12 08:06 PM)

#1940336 - 08/10/12 01:15 PM Re: SCHIMMEL : REAL OR NOT [Re: music-P]
music-P Offline
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Registered: 05/22/12
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somehow i heard a handok piano and it sounds quite poor so i was just nervous to know whether this piano is good or not


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