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#1940844 - 08/11/12 01:10 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Mike Carr]
Rich Galassini Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mike Carr


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If you remember I coaxed Frank into NOT banning you around that time Mike. There are moments that I regret that action.



Aw, shucks, Rich, I had no idea. I didn't know you cared. It's truly humbling to have a giant of the piano industry in my corner. I think I'm going to cry. Is lunch still on?

Mike


Actually Mike, my memory is not what it used to be. I checked my old PM's and I coaxed Frank and the mods. to not ban "TheSockPuppet", although I would have done the same for you. Your posts DO usually have good content.

Also, I would still enjoy meeting you for lunch. In my experience when people are face to face and speak directly many things are communicated differently. Even if you communicated in the same style it would be different in person. I think I would get along with you jst fine in person.

If you are ever in the Philly area, I would love to treat you to lunch. If I am ever in your neighborhood, I hope you would extend that courtesy to me there as well.
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#1940855 - 08/11/12 01:40 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Well, I said I enjoy Mark and his far out opinions, and was attacked. If you don't like my posts dude, don't read them.
Originally Posted By: Minnesota Marty
Originally Posted By: Guapo Gabacho
Originally Posted By: Steve Cohen
Birds of a feather...




That's us I guess, not here for the profit it can generate.


I rest my case.

Here is a prime example of the rudness and sarchasm which people seem to enjoy. And, I'm certainly not referring to Steve or Rich.


Well, I said I enjoy Mark and his far out opinions and was attacked. If you don't like my posts dude, don't read them.
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#1940867 - 08/11/12 02:12 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Guapo, it's Mike and not Mark... unless you know something we don’t.

I think Mike Carr knows he's on thin ice here with Frank. Maybe he enjoys living on the edge, I don't know. I too enjoy his post most of time, when he is not after his opponent with a vengeance. It is not about disagreeing here, it is how we express ourselves when we disagree… I also enjoy reading his stories when he’s in a good mood and in the mood to write. He has his strengths and weaknesses, just like the rest of us.

I suggest everyone go ahead and express themselves and get it out of your system… we are a community here, a family, if you will, and Frank is like the head of our household... this is his forum. From time to time, even family members get irritated and aggravated at each other, but we should still respect each other.

Mike, you are not banned yet, and like Rich, I’d hate to see that happen. Only you can avoid that action…

Rick
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#1940869 - 08/11/12 02:18 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Rickster, sorry for the name mistake and no I do not know the gentleman. It just racks my rectum to be jumped by the dealer clique for simply expressing my opinion, one without any snarking.


Edited by Guapo Gabacho (08/11/12 02:20 PM)
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#1940894 - 08/11/12 03:33 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Guapo Gabacho]
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Originally Posted By: Guapo Gabacho
Well, I said I enjoy Mark and his far out opinions and was attacked. If you don't like my posts dude, don't read them.


If you don't like my thread dude, don't read it!
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#1940901 - 08/11/12 03:52 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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"That's the second time you hit me dude",

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#1940918 - 08/11/12 04:35 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Bob Newbie]
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Years ago after a recital of Chopin Etudes at the Dorothy Chandler, I was able to shake Maurizio Pollini's hand after he came from the backstage area to greet his admirers.

I said , "hey nice job on the tudes dude " ! Boy did he give me a strange look. I thought, what's up with that ? confused
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#1940980 - 08/11/12 06:47 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: PaintedPostDave]
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There is never any need to be impolite, even when using pseudonyms on an internet forum.

Originally Posted By: PaintedPostDave
In response to the Dave Ferris post, my local on-line newspaper converted from allowing anonymous or pseudonym posts to requiring posters to use their facebook names. The resulting change in the quality of the posting was dramatic (and positive). I would like to see that on PW. shocked

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#1940981 - 08/11/12 06:47 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Rickster]
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Originally Posted By: Rickster
Guapo, it's Mike and not Mark... unless you know something we don’t.

I think Mike Carr knows he's on thin ice here with Frank. Maybe he enjoys living on the edge, I don't know. I too enjoy his post most of time, when he is not after his opponent with a vengeance. It is not about disagreeing here, it is how we express ourselves when we disagree… I also enjoy reading his stories when he’s in a good mood and in the mood to write. He has his strengths and weaknesses, just like the rest of us.

I suggest everyone go ahead and express themselves and get it out of your system… we are a community here, a family, if you will, and Frank is like the head of our household... this is his forum. From time to time, even family members get irritated and aggravated at each other, but we should still respect each other.

Mike, you are not banned yet, and like Rich, I’d hate to see that happen. Only you can avoid that action…

Rick


Ok, I just have to get this out! Frank is head of the household (you said, Rick!) and he has never, EVER given me an allowance! And, that is a fact, NOT an opinion .

There, I feel better.
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#1940989 - 08/11/12 06:55 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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I've found that to be true too, greeting in person verses anonymous or even just on the net. In person, people are always nicer, well, most people anyway... smile
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#1940997 - 08/11/12 07:07 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Put me in the Rich/Steve column.

When I first came to PW, the Ellenburg/Wil$on wars were just heating up on the PF. They were ugly, but not nearly as snide and vile as the turds being lobbed these days.

You guys should take Rich up on lunch. If you met him IRL and had any kind of open mind, you'd see just how wrong you are about him. And Steve Cohen, for that matter.

As for aliases, I might cry if you made me give up mine...
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#1940999 - 08/11/12 07:09 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Jerry Groot RPT]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
I've found that to be true too, greeting in person verses anonymous or even just on the net. In person, people are always nicer, well, most people anyway... smile


There is another element involved. When you're face to face with someone, you get the context of their physical selves, not just their words, and that tends to mitigate any extreme interpretation of what they might say, or what their motives in life are.
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#1941005 - 08/11/12 07:20 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Case rested, case proved. Next case...

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#1941016 - 08/11/12 07:39 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Mike Carr]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Carr


Aren't these moaning mona or in this case moaning marty threads really from people who can’t stand to be disagreed with?

They try to cover it up with calls for civility, etc, but at the end of the day they’re pretty much in love with their own opinions and thoughts and those of their buddies and by god they’re just damn sick and tired of anyone disagreeing with them.


Mike


These aren't the words I'd choose to describe it, but I see some truth in what's being expressed in that quote.

To me, (and while this is a very divergent opinion it is an honest opinion) what's going on here is an inevitable clash of a supposedly fact-based forum with the structure of a social medium.

Many people join social media wishing to belong. They sense value in belonging. They befriend those of like mind or disposition both openly in posts that broadcast private chortles and in penned-to-please private messages. Often they come to regard certain other medium mebers as friends based solely on a courtship of easy words. Conversely, they come to regard certain others as mean-spirited enemies or personal adversaries with no real basis to support that feeling other than a sharp difference of opinion or a lack of trust that someone is in their corner.

There's also a desire to make the 'community' conform to one's individual expectations of structure, tone, and mood so that the sought-after feeling of belonging seems more worthwhile. Hence, Rick's "We're a family". or "We're all addicted" and Marty's "Hey Gang".

Family is family. Substituting a cyber-form for a family is a symptom of a loneliness that can lead to needless personal disappointment and emotional distress -- Gee, I thought we were buddies. Some industry members join the cultivation of click to clique friendships because it costs nothing and it may yield dividends to their real reason for being in the medium. Some industry folks will even join in the demonization of certain others who have a habit of getting in the way of things, but the smarter ones will resist the urge and foster and image of patience and tolerance.

There is no doubt that certain members here relish the opportunity to talk about other members rather than talk about pianos knowledge or the piano industry. The same names hop aboard these navel-gazing threads whenever they pop up. Usually somewhere along the line there's a cry for real name disclosure, the assumption being that evil motives lie behind avatars rather than a simple wish for privacy. Those who find value in broadcasting their names and links for personal or business reasons challenge others to stop being cowards and come out of hiding. It's happened again again over months and years here and involves heaping portions of hypocrisy.

All of this was pre-ordained by Marshall McLuhan decades ago when he reached the conclusion that the way society was headed even then, the medium itself would ultimately become the message and the bare factual truth or falsehood of the message would become irrelevant. This is why the leading product of American industry is litigation and why a Facebook founder can be a billionaire.
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#1941030 - 08/11/12 08:03 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Originally Posted By: turandot
There's also a desire to make the 'community' conform to one's individual expectations of structure, tone, and mood so that the sought-after feeling of belonging seems more worthwhile. Hence, Rick's "We're a family". or "We're all addicted" and Marty's "Hey Gang".

Family is family. Substituting a cyber-form for a family is a symptom of a loneliness that can lead to needless personal disappointment and emotional distress -- Gee, I thought we were buddies.

When I said this forum was LIKE a community, or LIKE a family, if you will, I meant it in the sense that we as forum members respect each other and do not mistreat each other with harsh and hateful words, personal attacks and innuendo.

Rick
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#1941041 - 08/11/12 08:31 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Originally Posted By: OperaTenor
When I first came to PW, the Ellenburg/Wil$on wars were just heating up on the PF. They were ugly, but not nearly as snide and vile as the turds being lobbed these days.


Rose colored glasses, methinks.

Nothing in the turd-laden threads of today quite compares to the thousands of dollars lost by the duped consumers of that episode. And the language of those threads was very personal and vituperative.
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#1941043 - 08/11/12 08:37 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Originally Posted By: Turandot
Many people join social media wishing to belong. They sense value in belonging. They befriend those of like mind or disposition both openly in posts that broadcast private chortles and in penned-to-please private messages. Often they come to regard certain other medium members as friends based solely on a courtship of easy words. Conversely, they come to regard certain others as mean-spirited enemies or personal adversaries with no real basis to support that feeling other than a sharp difference of opinion or a lack of trust that someone is in their corner.


Lot of truth in there. This can also be true in face-to-face social encounters, but the web environment seems to be a hot house version of life in which superficial differences of opinion can create ugly arguments without the normal restraints that moderate peoples' anger in real life.
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#1941044 - 08/11/12 08:47 PM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Originally Posted By: Piano*Dad
Lot of truth in there. This can also be true in face-to-face social encounters, but the web environment seems to be a hot house version of life in which superficial differences of opinion can create ugly arguments without the normal restraints that moderate peoples' anger in real life.

Lot of truth there too, Piano*Dad... and, something we all need to be reminded of on occasion. smile

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#1941152 - 08/12/12 12:51 AM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Rickster]
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Originally Posted By: Rickster

When I said this forum was LIKE a community, or LIKE a family, if you will, I meant it in the sense that we as forum members respect each other and do not mistreat each other with harsh and hateful words, personal attacks and innuendo.


Wow, Rickster, you must come from a really nice family! :-)
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#1941166 - 08/12/12 01:29 AM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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The quick answer to the original question is that there isn't anything more or less than usual going on in Piano Forum. You still have dealers promoting their wares, some with more subtlety than others. You still have basically the same questions asked about the usual new pianos, Steinway rebuilds, if I have however many dollars, what should I buy, yadda yadda yadda. Then you have responses offered varying and depending on any given contributor's backround. There are maybe a half-dozen folks that I would trust to spend my money if asked what piano to buy, just as there were years ago when I joined the forum.

Family?? If I considered the nameless faceless hordes anything relating to a family, I think I'd take a walk in the woods. REALLY?? You can't be serious! If I thought of anyone approaching family status, you'd hear from me by phone or at least a personal email. I really feel sorry for anyone that views social networking as anything other than total balderdash as regards personal relationships. For what it's worth, EVERYONE I routinely communicate with feels exactly the same way. Even my kids (they are in their 20's) are becoming ever more circumspect about social media.

Turandot and I don't always agree but his recent tome is spot on. Congrats William!

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#1941175 - 08/12/12 01:52 AM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Piano*Dad]
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Originally Posted By: Piano*Dad
Originally Posted By: OperaTenor
When I first came to PW, the Ellenburg/Wil$on wars were just heating up on the PF. They were ugly, but not nearly as snide and vile as the turds being lobbed these days.


Rose colored glasses, methinks.

Nothing in the turd-laden threads of today quite compares to the thousands of dollars lost by the duped consumers of that episode. And the language of those threads was very personal and vituperative.


You could be right. Maybe it's because I was having so much fun bating Mr. Wil$on...
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#1941190 - 08/12/12 03:22 AM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Rickster]
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Originally Posted By: Rickster
Originally Posted By: turandot
There's also a desire to make the 'community' conform to one's individual expectations of structure, tone, and mood so that the sought-after feeling of belonging seems more worthwhile. Hence, Rick's "We're a family". or "We're all addicted" and Marty's "Hey Gang".

Family is family. Substituting a cyber-form for a family is a symptom of a loneliness that can lead to needless personal disappointment and emotional distress -- Gee, I thought we were buddies.

When I said this forum was LIKE a community, or LIKE a family, if you will, I meant it in the sense that we as forum members respect each other and do not mistreat each other with harsh and hateful words, personal attacks and innuendo.

Rick


It's difficult for me to grasp your concept of harsh and hateful words, personal attacks and innuendo. A member who is one of this forum's most prolific posters calls for good manners by accusing others of diarrhea of the mouth. Might that be a little harsh, a little personal, a little disrespectful? See any irony there?

Another member wants to be counted in because he's noticed a marked escalation of vacuous garbage and urine extraction. It's possible he's joking, but if people really want to call attention to a lack of good manners, this is an odd way to go about it.


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#1941241 - 08/12/12 07:47 AM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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if we are voting on a winning line - this one wins for me

"hey nice job on the tudes dude "

what surprises me about the bickering is that is all seems to be male generated.. usually women are the bickerers. at least in KS. Even if i EVER say anything negative, everyone ignores it.

I would like equal time please.
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#1941246 - 08/12/12 08:03 AM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: turandot]
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Originally Posted By: turandot
A member who is one of this forum's most prolific posters calls for good manners by accusing others of diarrhea of the mouth. Might that be a little harsh, a little personal, a little disrespectful? See any irony there?


That would be me, the author of this thread.

Turandot, what point are you trying to make by taking my statement, totally out of context, and using it as a negative toward me? This is exactly the type of response which I consider totally inappropriate, having rendered a false judgement of my intent, and feeling the need to bring it up as a negative posting. Please explain to me how it is "harsh," "personal" or "disrespectful" when it was not directed at any given individual, you included.

I have never given much thought to the frequency of my posting and don't understand how it applies to my listing of many things which could be considered to be ill mannered. I post when my experience enables me to offer opinion, observation, or response to specific questions or situations. I do not reply for the sake of replying to something of which I have no experience or interest.

It is very common to read a posting where there is a direct question from a member, often new to PW, asking about a "Schnikelheimmer W147-SWZ" in reference to quality or price. If I am unfamiliar with the instrument I won't respond. If I have direct experience with the "Schnikel," I may very well offer my opinion. I am always baffled at the number of members who will reply with "I have never played a "Schnikel" but.......... That sort of reply serves no purpose whatsoever. Often the same member will keep responding, to the same thread, offering additional comments of no relevance. That is what I referred to as "diarrhea of the mouth."

You have also cast light on my usage of "Hey Gang" as either being negative, familial, or some strange combination of both. Would you prefer that I would have addressed the membership with "Hey #$%& Heads?"

What is the value of attacking members in a thread about that very sort of behavior? See any irony there?
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#1941269 - 08/12/12 09:00 AM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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In my opinion, the problem is that human beings (in general) just CANNOT get along together. Never have and in my opinion, never will.

I think the only thing different now is our easy methods of communication.

Politics, religion, governments, groups, countries etc. hate each other to the point that people are willing to actually kill each other for not agreeing.

Forums and these forums in particular are pretty mild in the whole scheme of things. I've participated in other forums where people actually agree to meet each other and fight it out.

Discouraging but reality.

Rodney King said (this is close)can't we all just get along?

Just my take.
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#1941274 - 08/12/12 09:09 AM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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This forum, an analogy:

Yesterday I picked blackberries and made a pie.
Everyone loves the pie.

Today I have chiggers.

Even so, I'll do it again, because I like picking blackberries and I like blackberry pie.

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#1941280 - 08/12/12 09:19 AM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Originally Posted By: turandot
A member who is one of this forum's most prolific posters calls for good manners by accusing others of diarrhea of the mouth. Might that be a little harsh, a little personal, a little disrespectful? See any irony there?
There are some members who so regularly write mean spirited, arrogant, and nasty threads that such an accusation is perfectly accurate and obvious(although I doubt someone making such an accusation would using the phrase "diarrhea of the mouth"). These posters often use their writing skill mainly to see how "clever" they can be in attacking other posters. For posters like the above commenting on the tone of their posts is not being harsh...it's saying a well documented truth.

Those kind of posters don't deserve respect even if the level of their knowledge is high(it's never as high as they think it is). Comments on the nasty tone of those posters must and should be "personal".



Edited by pianoloverus (08/12/12 10:57 AM)

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#1941289 - 08/12/12 09:36 AM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Originally Posted By: turandot
A member who is one of this forum's most prolific posters calls for good manners by accusing others of diarrhea of the mouth. Might that be a little harsh, a little personal, a little disrespectful? See any irony there?
There are some members who so regularly write mean spirited, arrogant, and nasty threads that such an accusation is perfectly accurate and obvious(although I doubt someone making such an accusation would using the phrase "diarrhea of the mouth"). These posters often use their writing skill mainly to see how "clever" they can be in attacking other posters. For posters like the above commenting on the tone of their posts is not being harsh...it's saying a well documented truth.

Those kind of posters don't deserve respect even if the level of their knowledge is high(it's never as high as they think it is). Comments on the nasty tone of those posters must be by nature "personal".



Well said.
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#1941294 - 08/12/12 09:49 AM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Just for the record...

I agree with everything that has been said here in this thread.

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#1941297 - 08/12/12 09:56 AM Re: What Is Going On in Piano Forum? [Re: Piano*Dad]
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Originally Posted By: Piano*Dad
Originally Posted By: Turandot
Many people join social media wishing to belong. They sense value in belonging. They befriend those of like mind or disposition both openly in posts that broadcast private chortles and in penned-to-please private messages. Often they come to regard certain other medium members as friends based solely on a courtship of easy words. Conversely, they come to regard certain others as mean-spirited enemies or personal adversaries with no real basis to support that feeling other than a sharp difference of opinion or a lack of trust that someone is in their corner.


Lot of truth in there. This can also be true in face-to-face social encounters, but the web environment seems to be a hot house version of life in which superficial differences of opinion can create ugly arguments without the normal restraints that moderate peoples' anger in real life.


Well said; another factor is most people wouldn't have the temerity to say the same thing to your face they would on an internet posting.
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