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#1944113 - 08/16/12 09:12 PM Re: avoiding use of sustaining pedal when playing Mozart [Re: stores]
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Registered: 11/23/10
Posts: 3957
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Originally Posted By: stores
Originally Posted By: ando

Geez, you're a hard guy to get along with. I've earned the right to interpret things the way I like because I've devoted much of my life to understanding music. I have two degrees in music - analysis/composition and performance.


I'll keep it short and sweet, because I have a few lessons on the way... (and this will be one of my last posts as well)...
I don't care if you have 26 degrees, ando. You can spend a lifetime studying and still not earn any "right". There is no such thing as a "right" to interpret things the way YOU LIKE. It's not your work... the work belongs to Bach, Beethoven, Brahms, Mozart, Schubert, Schumann, Chopin, etc., etc. To interpret is to speak FOR them... not what YOU decide they're saying, but what they HAVE said already. Ask yourself this... is your audience more interested in your voice or the voice of Mozart? Mozart's thoughts are MUCH more interesting, I assure you.


You hook onto certain words and then drive yourself into a frenzy. "Right" in this case isn't some measure of holy righteousness. It merely means I have studied music to a high enough degree to make my own decisions about what I like to do, and my pedal-use forms part of my overall interpretational approach. I'm not asking anybody else to be onboard with that. Last time I performed Mozart people told me they enjoyed it. So they were a little bit interested in my voice as it related to Mozart. Credit to Mozart for providing me the piece, of course.


And for what it's worth. Of course people have the right to interpret the work of any composer. I don't see how you can even cope with the astonishing array of interpretations on Youtube. You must be beside yourself with anger when you see how different people can make such different interpretations of the same piece. It's what people do. No two people are alike. The great interpretations win the day - that's how it works. The bad ones won't pass muster. It's interpretational Darwinism. People love to debate the different interpretations of great works. You are the first person I've met who considers it to be sacrilegious to interpret the great composers. Music belongs to everybody, not just to the composers. It just so happens that the best composers wrote very useful and effective markings on their music and this leads to the better interpretations. But notation isn't a recording. There are things left out. Not every ritardando is marked, not every decrescendo is marked, yet we all have to interpret the cadences of a piece. Notation leaves out some things. The pedal example for Mozart is the best one of all - he simply didn't mark anything. I don't know if there was even a recognised symbol for pedalling in Mozart's time. He certainly didn't say not to use it. Some of your favourite performers are using it and you aren't even aware that they are.

If you can't handle the opinions of others without such moral explosions, you have a real anger problem. Please put me back on your "list".

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#1944136 - 08/16/12 10:22 PM Re: avoiding use of sustaining pedal when playing Mozart [Re: Otis S]
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I think I'll put the whole thread on the "list."

Starting to get some complaints. Hadn't really looked at this thread until today, but my goodness, what a mess!

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