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#1944875 - 08/18/12 03:00 AM Read this before you buy Korg SP 250 or LP 350
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Registered: 08/06/12
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I Recently got the Sp-170S. I returned it, bocz the keys were making clicking sounds. Very Annoying while playing forte phrases. Then i got the Sp-250. The RH3 action feels firm to play on. The sounds are also great, with a good metronome sound for practice.

But the SP-250 has some serious issues playing softer (p & pp) phrases. Btw some lower velocity range, it triggers a muted, staccato like piano sample & believe me for a pianist it is very ANNOYING. It's like you play a legato phrase & if you aren't hitting the keys hard enough, you are likely to hear some short length notes (like; theres is no decay or release on those notes).

I would really request to people who are buying the KORG SP-250 to play it for a while with Headphones & play @ different dynamics.
I checked this with LP-350 too, and it too has that issue.

I wish to return this DP and check the Yamaha P-155. If the exchange doesn't work out, then the only solution i have is to attach a sampler/laptop and use an external Piano Library.
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#1944908 - 08/18/12 06:54 AM Re: Read this before you buy Korg SP 250 or LP 350 [Re: JcKeys]
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Known issue with RH3 keyed. See past discussions on here re Kronos 73 and 88. Korg are offering fixes on those. Not sure about the situation with other models though.
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#1944962 - 08/18/12 09:33 AM Re: Read this before you buy Korg SP 250 or LP 350 [Re: JcKeys]
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Do the new Kronos models included the fixed keybed?

...I'm still waiting for the SV-2, by the way, although I have a sneaky suspicion that my next board will be a Nord Electro 4D 73-key, once it's announced at NAMM 2013.

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#1945556 - 08/19/12 01:54 PM Re: Read this before you buy Korg SP 250 or LP 350 [Re: JcKeys]
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I had the SP250 and indeed, their p and pp range is lacking - more a change in the volume of the sound than in the timber, and even so you can't really get a barely there sound. However, you can connect it to a computer and play a software piano to fix this.

Please remember that Ivory I, long considered *the best* VST out there, had the same problem with the pp and ppp range. So maybe it was the way they did samples at that time.

But RM3 remains a very good action for its price.
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#1945588 - 08/19/12 02:49 PM Re: Read this before you buy Korg SP 250 or LP 350 [Re: JcKeys]
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I thought the RH3 problems with the Kronos we're mainly a problem with one , or a few batches of the keybeds. Never heard of any pre-Kronos instruments to have the same flaw. Also later batches seem to be good. So between the introduction of the Kronos and a certain serial number you're doomed, but before and after that I assume the RH3 based Korgs are fine. Correct me if I'm wrong. I also understood problematic keybeds are replaced under warranty, no questions asked. Hope that is a home service (don't have to send in your 88key Kronos flagship).

The nord d4 is indeed a cool beast. Wonder what the 73 will bring keybed wise : what if they ditched Fatar as supplier and got the vax77 keybed inside. Now that would be a deam come true ;-)


Edited by JFP (08/19/12 02:49 PM)

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#1961486 - 09/20/12 10:14 AM Re: Read this before you buy Korg SP 250 or LP 350 [Re: JcKeys]
Clive Goodwill Offline
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Registered: 09/15/11
Posts: 2
Loc: Randburg, Gauteng, South Afric...
Hi and thanks for the tip - I have just bought a SP250 - the A above middle C was intemittant and sent it in for repairs. $40 charged. The Speakers don't work and got a quote here in South Africa for them to import a part from Japan for $50. AAs I'm taking Piano to a 6 month gig in UAE in 10 days time I will replace on my return. Will listen to maine tomorrow when I pick it up and let you know if I have the same problem.
Thanks, Clive
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