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#1941067 - 08/11/12 09:59 PM Rachmaninov Moment Musical no.4, op.16
Quaver Pyjama Offline
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Registered: 08/26/11
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The link to my performance of this piece.



I recorded it a year ago.

I'm sorry, but the audio quality is terrible.

I could have felt the theme (and some other moments) in a less rushed way, and there are lots of stupid wrong notes.

But I hope you enjoy it! It is an awesome piece.

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#1941073 - 08/11/12 10:10 PM Re: Rachmaninov Moment Musical no.4, op.16 [Re: Quaver Pyjama]
trigalg693 Offline
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Registered: 08/17/08
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Hey I like it! Quality sucks can't hear much, but you could probably hit those bottom bass notes a little louder since they seem to get drowned out, so it sounds strange.
Yea maybe take time sometimes with cadences, a little rubato makes it more powerful imo.

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#1942187 - 08/13/12 08:04 PM Re: Rachmaninov Moment Musical no.4, op.16 [Re: trigalg693]
Quaver Pyjama Offline
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Originally Posted By: trigalg693
Hey I like it! Quality sucks can't hear much, but you could probably hit those bottom bass notes a little louder since they seem to get drowned out, so it sounds strange.
Yea maybe take time sometimes with cadences, a little rubato makes it more powerful imo.

Yes, I should probably re-record it on another occasion. It is indeed artificially fast, it should be more natural with rubato as you say. The basses were actually strong but the crappy recorder just destroyed almost all sound quality.
Thank you for your input smile

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#1942309 - 08/14/12 12:37 AM Re: Rachmaninov Moment Musical no.4, op.16 [Re: Quaver Pyjama]
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I really like the drive you have, a lot. I also really want to hear a good quality recording that will do more justice to your playing! Don't be afraid to place/phrase cadences more and observe the overall shape (work on the big line).
Good luck!
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'I want to invest my emotions only in music; it will never disappoint me or hurt me - it is a safe place to be.'

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#1944025 - 08/16/12 05:57 PM Re: Rachmaninov Moment Musical no.4, op.16 [Re: Pogorelich.]
Quaver Pyjama Offline
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Originally Posted By: Pogorelich.
I really like the drive you have, a lot. I also really want to hear a good quality recording that will do more justice to your playing! Don't be afraid to place/phrase cadences more and observe the overall shape (work on the big line).
Good luck!

Thank you for your input wink
I'm thinking of buying a good quality sound recorder for Christmas, only then I will be able to make decent recordings... And this recording is from over a year ago so it's sort of immature compared to what I would do now. But it is the only thing I have that is complete (as stupid as it sounds).
I heard you play Brahms and Rachmaninov, they are extremely good! I loved your sound, the trueness of expression. One feels right away that you are a very sensitive and sincere artist/person. Really great! thumb

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#1944980 - 08/18/12 10:32 AM Re: Rachmaninov Moment Musical no.4, op.16 [Re: Quaver Pyjama]
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Quite spectacular. You play this piece with the requisite passion, which is so hard to sustain through all the technical difficulties. I like the subtleties you present in your tonal balance - the crescendi and decrescendi come across with great effectiveness. Also, the left hand accompaniment has that buzz to it - something of a blur but not too much that you don't understand the notes - which makes this piece quite edgy.

It's one of my favorite Rachmaninoff compositions. This and the Bb prelude are two fantastic bravura pieces.

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#1945043 - 08/18/12 12:27 PM Re: Rachmaninov Moment Musical no.4, op.16 [Re: Quaver Pyjama]
Tim Adrianson Offline
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Registered: 08/07/10
Posts: 975
Overall, I could follow your musical thought quite clearly, in spite of the "tubby", indistinct sound. Personally, I liked your tempo; it did not sound particularly "rushed" to me. However, I would start out the piece much more quietly, so that you have room to build towards the end -- this piece is all about high drama! I agreed with your lyric contrasting material, while maintaining the tempo, but I think the overarching line could be shaped more, to set up the high drama of the concluding material with more clarity and power. But, in general, a very fine rendition!

This piece reminds me uncannily of Medtner's Skazka Op 34 - 2 -- the same relentless rolling bass, and the looooong minor melodic line floating above. Rachmaninov was said to have held Medtner's compositions in VERY high esteem, and in this case the writing is certainly similar!

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#1945108 - 08/18/12 03:12 PM Re: Rachmaninov Moment Musical no.4, op.16 [Re: Quaver Pyjama]
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Registered: 06/05/11
Posts: 25
Loc: New York, NY
This is fantastic! I agree that you sustain the energy of the piece very well, and I think the voicing is great! I like the choice of tempo.

I agree that you could use more dynamics, e.g. starting softer to build up to the end but also just fluctuating more i.e. getting really soft in some of the melancholy parts of the piece (i.e. those descending scales from G). You might be doing that more than I can hear with the poor sound quality, but definitely bring out those contrasts.

Bravo!

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#1946412 - 08/20/12 08:25 PM Re: Rachmaninov Moment Musical no.4, op.16 [Re: Numerian]
Quaver Pyjama Offline
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Registered: 08/26/11
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Originally Posted By: Numerian
Quite spectacular. You play this piece with the requisite passion, which is so hard to sustain through all the technical difficulties. I like the subtleties you present in your tonal balance - the crescendi and decrescendi come across with great effectiveness. Also, the left hand accompaniment has that buzz to it - something of a blur but not too much that you don't understand the notes - which makes this piece quite edgy.

It's one of my favorite Rachmaninoff compositions. This and the Bb prelude are two fantastic bravura pieces.

Thank you for your kind words!! smile
Originally Posted By: Tim Adrianson
Overall, I could follow your musical thought quite clearly, in spite of the "tubby", indistinct sound. Personally, I liked your tempo; it did not sound particularly "rushed" to me. However, I would start out the piece much more quietly, so that you have room to build towards the end -- this piece is all about high drama! I agreed with your lyric contrasting material, while maintaining the tempo, but I think the overarching line could be shaped more, to set up the high drama of the concluding material with more clarity and power. But, in general, a very fine rendition!

This piece reminds me uncannily of Medtner's Skazka Op 34 - 2 -- the same relentless rolling bass, and the looooong minor melodic line floating above. Rachmaninov was said to have held Medtner's compositions in VERY high esteem, and in this case the writing is certainly similar!

Well, the thing is that I can't start below f because Rach marked the beggining with two ff... But I guess that starting a tiny bit less fortissimo could work well.

I don't know that piece! (in fact, I'm only familiar with the Sonata-Reminiscenza). I'll definitely listen to it smile
It sould bring a new light to the piece.
Thank you very much!

Originally Posted By: nlehrer
This is fantastic! I agree that you sustain the energy of the piece very well, and I think the voicing is great! I like the choice of tempo.

I agree that you could use more dynamics, e.g. starting softer to build up to the end but also just fluctuating more i.e. getting really soft in some of the melancholy parts of the piece (i.e. those descending scales from G). You might be doing that more than I can hear with the poor sound quality, but definitely bring out those contrasts.

Bravo!

I agree with the part where you suggest more pianissimo in the central section... but because it was recorded during a piano reunion, in my former teacher's house, I was somewhat worried about the possibility of the piano being unfit for that kind of dynamic - I chose not to push the pp's too far in order to avoid 'holes', notes that would not sound at all.
And thank you for your sincere words!

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