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#1950124 - 08/28/12 12:29 AM RCM exams
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Hi
I have never taken an exam. when i was younger i wasnt interested. im assuming i start at level 1 exam? Do i start at 1 and do 1 a year? If im wrong how do i go about this?

Thanks in advance!
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#1950142 - 08/28/12 01:06 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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Hi Amanda. For RCM you can take any exam you want. If you are a complete beginner you can start at grade one. If not you can also choose to skip a grade or two and prepare for the grade you are closest too. You can skip grades too.

When I started I prepped for the grade 4 RCM exam. Now I'm working on the grade 5 materials. I may choose to skip the actual exam though and do the grade 6 exam instead. I'll see how things go in the next few months.

Are you working with a teacher? They should be able to tell you which level exam to prepare for.

I've been told that kids take about 1 grade per year in the early grades. It may take longer to get through a grade as they advance. It is possible for adults to progress faster if they can devote the time necessary to learn all the various requirements. There are technical requirements as well as repertoire. Scales, chords, sight reading, ear training, studies, and pieces. It takes time but I find it is so worth it. I don't think my playing would be at this level without the roadmap RCM provides.

Good luck!
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#1950158 - 08/28/12 01:34 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: ZoeCalgary]
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However, there are some exceptions. There are theory exams. The first written theory exam must be completed before grade 5, otherwise you would not receive a grade 5 certificate even if you pass the practical exam. At this point, each grade has its required written theory or harmony exams. Also, you are not allowed to take the grade 10 exam without a specific passing score from a grade 9 exam. In reality, grade 8, 9, and 10 cannot be skipped.

The grade 1 exam is fairly easy. It only takes 10 minutes! You'll feel great about yourself. The bad - it takes up to 3 months to receive the certificate. By the time you get it in the mail, you've forgotten about whole thing.


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#1950225 - 08/28/12 06:19 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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Zoe
When are you planning to take your next exam?

For my first exam I'm hoping to take Level 5 in December if one is offered relatively close. Although I've had theory as part of my lessons over the years, it's not something I know as well as I'll need to for a passing grade. I'm really working to feel prepared for the written exam and the aural exam. So far my descending interval recognition is not passing. Ascending...not too bad. :-) I've found songs that help me know the ascending intervals but not the other direction.

Amanda...Whether you actually take the exam or not, it seems to be good focus and develops a deeper awareness of the music.

All part of the addiction I guess
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#1950296 - 08/28/12 10:09 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: WiseBuff]
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Wisebuff - I'm not sure. There is a chance I can do it in January but I'm not sure if I will be ready. The technical requirements take me a long time to catch up as I don't have all those years behind me. (I started exams on grade 4). Plus last year I took a two month break to do Christmas music and I enjoyed that very much. If I don't do it in Jan. I'm able to do it in April and that may work better for me. I'd rather enjoy the Christmas holidays and do fun pieces than feel pressure of an exam!

My ear tests need a lot of work and I have great trouble identifying intervals. My teacher is really pushing me to work hard in this area and I often find I'm leaving this off the practice list. Not good!!

As for theory I'm about a quarter through my book and finding it ok. When I finish it I will do some old RCM exams for practice which my teacher will mark for me. (did you know you can buy these old exams?). I got 3 for $12. I believe I will do the theory exam after my practical exam.

Which pieces and studies are you planning to do? How long have you been preparing for your exam?
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#1950347 - 08/28/12 11:42 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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Thanks for the responses. If I can skip levels I was thinking of preparing for level 5 for June or so. The theory part I think i'll be fine on as long as I review since it's been a long time! However my problems will come in at the ear training for sure!

Question regarding completing "first written theory exam" before grade 5. Does that have to be level 1? Or can it be any level as long as it's before 5?

Also no I'm not currently working with a teacher. If I do decide to go for the exam I'd likely start in January or February working with a teacher with that goal in mind.

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#1950471 - 08/28/12 04:02 PM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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For your reference: http://www.theachievementprogram.org/sites/default/files/files/TAP_syllabus_piano_2012.pdf

http://www.theachievementprogram.org/sites/default/files/files/TAP_syllabus_theory_2012.pdf

Basically there are 3 written theory exams. You could take them any time. Grade 5 requires you have taken the first one. Grade 8 requires you have taken all 3. It's probably best to just get them over with as soon as possible then only worry about the practical exam from year to year.

I don't plan to do grade 9 and 10 for now, so I'm not worried about the harmony and history exams. Will cross that bridge when I get there.
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#1950768 - 08/29/12 07:06 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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Zoe
I've been acquiring every possible book to prepare. My intervals are better when I memorize a song cue. Still I'm about 10% on descending but have improved to 75% on ascending. I have the comprehensive ear training and discovered I'm not so good at playback. There are many online sites that preview the exam and test for intervals.

I started thinking about taking this exam in early 2011 but had the cancer and afib debacle the last couple of months of the year--seriously eroded my piano focus time. I've worked on several pieces. The Bach prelude shifted to the Bach allemande which is half memorized. All the advice is memorize your pieces but I'm not terrific at piano memorization. I'm tired of the Gurlitt so I'm learning the Mozart Menuette and Trio. Worked on Rowley's the Lake but really like the Arabesque so I'm learning it.
For the etudes, In Church and the other is Sweet Sorrow...hope I can get the speed it needs. The good thing is I'm learning a lot of intermediate repertoire in great depth so whether I accomplish the exam or not it's been a good thing.

So I've been in preparation for a long time...hope they don't change the syllabus before I register. LOL


Edited by WiseBuff (08/29/12 07:07 AM)
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#1950897 - 08/29/12 12:22 PM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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Hi Wisebuff. It sounds like you've been through some really challenging and high stress times. I hope things are better for you now! Don't worry about taking time to be ready for the exam. For me at least there really is no rush. (even though I do try to rush and wish I could wake up tomorrow and be at grade 10! Haha)

When I was preparing grade 4 I played several pieces from each section of the book and several exercises. I finally settled on the pieces I really liked. When I started that book I found everything hard. As the weeks passed I'd find myself fiddling with some other piece and finding I liked it better. My teacher let me do this for awhile and then said I had to make a selection. For memorizing I was worried too but she said to just memorize a few measures at a time each week. This really worked for me and I was surprised. I often memorized a logical phrase and forced myself to stop. Play it 2 times with music. One without and see how much you remember. Repeat as necessary. Then repeat the next day! The hard part was sticking only to those measures. Then when I started esch practice I would sit at the piano cold and see how far I could get into a piece by memory. It really highlighted gaps. I did memorize all my pieces but didn't bother with the studies. I found with the pieces it really allowed me to focus on the musicality of the piece and the tone I was producing by having the piece memorized. Basically it left space in my mind to allow me to work on other things.

I'm finding the grade 5 pieces much harder to learn. I'm trying to learn 2-4 measures per day on each piece. First hands separate and eventually together. I do this in 20 minute spurts. It is something I read about and wanted to try. It seems to be working. Focusing on small sections you can start to hear the improvements within one sitting. And I seem to make better progress. And more focused progress. It also becomes clear where the trouble spots are. And then I can really focus in on those too. I'll eventually memorize the pieces as I described above.
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#1951916 - 08/31/12 07:12 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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AmandaJ
Sounds like you, Zoe and I can all encourage each other as we prepare for level 5. Go go go
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#1958215 - 09/13/12 10:07 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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Zoe (since you're experienced with level 4)
On the technical part of the exam the syllabus says chords, root position and inversions. Do they ask you to play all 7 chords in a key? Just the primary chords (I, IV, V)? How many of the keys do they ask you to play. I'm studying the 8 (4 major and 4 minor) in level 5. Thanks
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#1958399 - 09/13/12 03:26 PM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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WiseBuff, the examiner will select keys from the list, which is why you need to have all of them prepared. Someone linked the TAP syllabus above. If you look at page 18 under triads, chords and arpeggios, they give an example of the solid and broken chords in C major.

Are you preparing for your exam on your own?

Zoe -- nice repertoire choices. I used several of the same for my teaching sample in the pedagogy exam (the Gurlitt, Burgmuller and the Archer).

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#1958638 - 09/14/12 01:01 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: WiseBuff]
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You need to play 3 chords for grade 4 in blocked and broken form. Start at the tonic and first and second inversions and play HS blocked and broken for two octaves. Then, HT play one octave. You must play them quicker than mm=76 HS and mm=60 for HT per chord broken, and mm=132 HS and mm=120 HT per chord blocked. Keys you must master are D, A, B-flat, E-flat major, and B, F#, G, C minor.

If you don't know what all that means, then get the grade 5 technical book, (google "harris technical requirements for piano book 5") and just follow the pages. It has fingering, tempo, all requirements. It's like $7 and takes all the guess work out of it. You must master the entire book before attempting the exam. I practice the entire book cover to cover everyday before anything else. It takes about 10 minutes after I've learned all the keys.

Sorry I don't know the requirements for grade 5. Not there yet smile

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#1958700 - 09/14/12 05:47 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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Thanks 4evrBeginR. I know what the chords are but am not sure whether I'll be playing several keys will all 7 chords in the key (or the 3 primary chords) or just the tonic. You say you need to play 3 chords...do you mean 3 keys? Say AbM, F#m, and EbM with tonic chord with inversions for two octaves.

I've got every book but it's not as specific as my question. I'm practicing all 8 that are required for level 5. My teacher is helping me prepare but she's not done the RCM exam. I just want to be really prepared.
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#1958721 - 09/14/12 07:32 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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Wisebuff I just saw your question. In grade 4 you learned the tonic chord only and played it in root, first and second inversion. I did not need to know all 7 chords for each scale. I will double check the grade 5 requirements to confirm this is the same.

Hope this helps.

PS. There is a teachers guide for RCM requirements that your teacher should invest in if she is to help you through the exams. You can buy it yourself but it is a bit expensive and I'd rather just buy music myself!
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#1958722 - 09/14/12 07:34 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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Thanks Ladychen, I am enjoying them!
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#1958871 - 09/14/12 01:58 PM Re: RCM exams [Re: WiseBuff]
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Originally Posted By: WiseBuff
Thanks 4evrBeginR. I know what the chords are but am not sure whether I'll be playing several keys will all 7 chords in the key (or the 3 primary chords) or just the tonic. You say you need to play 3 chords...do you mean 3 keys? Say AbM, F#m, and EbM with tonic chord with inversions for two octaves.



I probably shouldn't have said 3 chords. Let's take one chord say EbM. You play both broken and blocked forms, HT and HS, for tonic and 1st and 2nd inversions. You repeat this for all the required keys.

During the exam, the examiner will not ask you to play everything. He will usually just pick something random.

btw, don't ignore the sight reading and listening parts. Good luck.
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#1978794 - 10/26/12 07:18 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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I haven't given up on level 5 but have delayed my exam date til spring. My pieces are pretty close to ready but my scales and chords aren't as solid or as fast as they should be. Surprisingly I feel really good about this decision. After all, there is no mandate that I take the exam at all so I'll sit for the exam when I'm a complete level 5. I've been playing higher levels for years but have never mastered a piece down to the detail. I've played through scales and chords but never mastered them. Preparation has been good...I'm learning a lot.
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#1978853 - 10/26/12 10:53 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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ZoeCalgary -- What did you decide? Will you do your exam in January or spring?

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#1981090 - 10/31/12 07:57 PM Re: RCM exams [Re: 4evrBeginR]
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Actually, I don't believe there there is a minimum Grade 9 grade to take Grade 10. A minimum grade certainly applies if you want to continue on to ARCT.


Edited by cagal (10/31/12 07:58 PM)

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#1981117 - 10/31/12 08:52 PM Re: RCM exams [Re: cagal]
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Thanks for the correction.
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#1981585 - 11/02/12 01:36 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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Hi. I have had to put my lessons on hold because I went back to work and found I have very little playing time (or any free time!) and my original teacher doesn't teach on the weekends. So I am nowhere near ready for the exam though I still want to do it. I found a new teacher that I am hoping to start with on Sunday. I haven't hadlessons since July and I had stopped back in May for personal reasons. I'm looking forward to starting again. I had stopped doing any prep for the exam as it's really hard to undo things ifyou do them wrong. As I want to make sure I still do fun pieces I'm thinking I won't be ready for the exam for at least a year.
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#1981590 - 11/02/12 02:05 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: ZoeCalgary]
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Well don't give up. My work is always 60+ hours a week, and I actually took up piano to keep from burn out. Family time, homework with the kids takes up 15 hours, and they have to practice piano before me, so that's another 15 or so hours gone, then there's all the studying for professional certifications, but I will soldier on. It is the only thing that keeps my sanity.

My only problem is I have absolutely no time for fun pieces. Practice time has to be very focused, and often I have to jump right to the measure giving me trouble. Some days, I only get to practice those few measures. Even then, it is still way more fun than not at all. I finally got F# minor harmonic and melodic scales down without any glitches. It took months.

My original plan was to take the basic rudiments exam this year along with grade 4, but just not working out. I think I'll have to push that for next year. I have too many professional certification exams to study for this year.
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#1981666 - 11/02/12 08:43 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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Zoe, I know you'll be back at it.

4evrBeginR...I'm thinking focused time needs to be there but some fun stuff now and then is important too. Preparing for the exam is strenuous work. What professional certifications?

I'm still working daily on the scales and chords to get them smooth and up to tempo. The minor ones are just ones I never worked on through my many years. My teacher introduces scales and chords but doesn't stress them to the adults who mostly want to play for fun. I think she's enjoying this journey with me too...one crazy adult student who WANTS to study at this level of technique. For fun...I'm starting on Christmas music and put my pieces aside for a couple of weeks to let them rest in the brain. Some sight reading and some solo pieces. Have a new intermediate book from Mark Hayes that just arrived for me. Too bad work takes up so much of my day. No professional certifications but I'm working on a book rewrite and a paper to submit...and midterms to grade. :-)
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#1981686 - 11/02/12 09:38 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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I will continue on as well. It will take me more time but eventually I will get there.

I dont mind doing the work but I learned last year how important it was to do fun pieces. Christmas carols were a fun interlude to the grade 4 materials. Plus all the scales were probably driving my family crazy!!

I am looking forward to my lesson on Sunday. It will be a new start for me with a new teacher.

It is interesting to hear everybody's journey. All so busy with work, kids, certifications, home. And yet still want to chug along with piano. Makes me proud to be one of the gang!
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#1981738 - 11/02/12 12:06 PM Re: RCM exams [Re: WiseBuff]
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4evrBeginR...I'm thinking focused time needs to be there but some fun stuff now and then is important too. Preparing for the exam is strenuous work. What professional certifications?


Network engineering. Re-certification is requirement by management, a series of 5 exams, all have to be done in the next six or so months. No complaints. Work enables me to have piano lessons, among other things.

For fun, I play Dreamcatcher and Nocturn in my repertoire book. I think I will also keep Diabelli's sonatina as a fun piece. There are a few things I wish I time to learn to play really for fun, but just not possible at the moment:

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#1982326 - 11/03/12 06:52 PM Re: RCM exams [Re: 4evrBeginR]
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wow lots on your plate! I think sometmes people don't realize just how much of a commitment it is for adults to learn to play when there are so many other pressures on time. I hope you are very successful in all your endeavours!

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#1982576 - 11/04/12 11:29 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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Thanks! Others would just call us crazy! Haha! It really is something that I can lose myself completely in. Fun!!
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#1982646 - 11/04/12 02:36 PM Re: RCM exams [Re: ZoeCalgary]
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#2092671 - 05/31/13 06:40 AM Re: RCM exams [Re: AmandaJ]
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TOMORROW is the day after a couple of years of contemplating this. I'm taking the RCM level 5 exam. I know my scales and play them correctly the first time (sometimes). The chords move up and down the piano (mostly). The diminished and dominant 7 chords sound like I know what I'm talking about. I'm 80-100% correct on interval identification. The clapback is problematic because I see rhythms better than hear them. All the aural stuff is new in 2013 for me...in all my years of lessons we didn't focus on that. I hear the music but I didn't learn the test side of aural. My repertoire is probably memorized but I'm going to play with my music and take the hit on points. Somedays I play it nearly flawlessly and somedays the Bach is bad and just falls apart (as does the Mozart). Here's hoping for a smooth musical afternoon.
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