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#1950445 - 08/28/12 02:58 PM A432 As a More "Benevolent" Pitch Standard
DavidWB Offline
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I got a call last night from a new customer who wants his piano tuned at A432 Hz. He said there are proponents of A432 as a standard of pitch for its influence on consciousness. I did a quick Internet search on the topic, and indeed there is information about it. A case for A432 being the standard of pitch is made on the following website; the site's "mission is to educate about Concert Pitch A=432 hz and the connection between the vibrant environment and consciousness."


I realize that there will me some, perhaps many, who would dismiss the idea as nonsense, but I am inclined to believe there are connections between specific frequencies and effects on our brains—HemiSync and HoloSync being examples.

I'm particularly interested whether you have any familiarity with or have had requests to tune to A432.

David Bauguess

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#1950458 - 08/28/12 03:38 PM Re: A432 As a More "Benevolent" Pitch Standard [Re: DavidWB]
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Maybe 10 or 15 years ago I had a follower of Lyndon Larouche that requested 432 for her old large upright - I did that yearly until they moved away.

Nothing magical ever happened, nor did the world stop spinning because I broke the 440 convention!

The checks cleared, so I was satisfied...

Tonally, the piano sounded different with the tension change - it was tough for me to play, even though I don't have perfect pitch, I play the same songs over and over - They felt wrong under my fingers!

Ron Koval
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#1950465 - 08/28/12 03:53 PM Re: A432 As a More "Benevolent" Pitch Standard [Re: DavidWB]
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David, there was a recent discussion on 432 on this forum. It was a month or so ago. You can check the archives.
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#1950526 - 08/28/12 06:06 PM Re: A432 As a More "Benevolent" Pitch Standard [Re: Supply]
DavidWB Offline
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Opps. I missed that thread. Thanks for pointing it out, Jurgen. I'll head over there.


#1950564 - 08/28/12 07:38 PM Re: A432 As a More "Benevolent" Pitch Standard [Re: DavidWB]
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As a tenor in a large chorus, I always prefer A432hz. Especially when singing Verdi. Those high As are really high at A440hz.
Dale Fox
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#1950566 - 08/28/12 07:55 PM Re: A432 As a More "Benevolent" Pitch Standard [Re: DavidWB]
Dave B Offline
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Yes there was a thread on this topic and I've found 4-5 web sites dedicated to this theory.

I'm not sure where they came up with this theory. Most pianos (and most instruments) are designed for A440, so there will be a , let's say, less vibrant sound at A432.

It's my understanding that pitches are universally accepted all around the world in all cultures. It's also my understanding that the pitch is recognized within the tolerances of 25 cents sharp to 25 cents flat. That's a large window of 50 cents, of which it is my understanding, that A440 falls pretty much in the middle of this window.

What puzzles me most about A432 is that it is far enough below A440 to not be recognized as an A but not quite close enough to be in that Quarter-tone area.

Who knows. They say time is speeding up. I complained to my dad that the summer seemed to be going by too fast. He told me to, "Put on your seat belt". Maybe sound is speeding up too.

Edited by Dave B (08/28/12 07:57 PM)
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#1950587 - 08/28/12 08:45 PM Re: A432 As a More "Benevolent" Pitch Standard [Re: DavidWB]
Bob Newbie Offline
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This might catch on..I click on the link and the A432 tuning fork is back ordered!!!

#1950668 - 08/29/12 12:36 AM Re: A432 As a More "Benevolent" Pitch Standard [Re: Bob Newbie]
Withindale Offline
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Registered: 02/09/11
Posts: 2332
Loc: Suffolk, England
Originally Posted By: Bob Newbie
This might catch on..I click on the link and the A432 tuning fork is back ordered!!!

Divine Intonation, no less!!!
Ian Russell
Schiedmayer & Soehne, 1925 Model 14, 55" upright
Ibach, 1922 49" upright (project piano)

#1950807 - 08/29/12 08:42 AM Re: A432 As a More "Benevolent" Pitch Standard [Re: DavidWB]
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Loc: San Jose, CA

#1950810 - 08/29/12 08:49 AM Re: A432 As a More "Benevolent" Pitch Standard [Re: DavidWB]
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Edited by Kamin (08/29/12 08:50 AM)
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