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#1955507 - 09/07/12 04:25 PM Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3!
Sam Rose Offline
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Well, I came across a deal I couldn't refuse, so my Yamaha G2 has been replaced by a C3. Here's the story (followed by the mandatory pics of course).

It was made in 1992, and purchased by a family as a showpiece for the living room. A daughter used it briefly and then quit, and it has sat there ever since. It hasn't been tuned since the initial tuning (probably almost 20 years ago), so it sounds terrible right now, but I bought it anyway. The hammers look nearly brand new. I'm gonna polish up the keys, get her tuned, and there you have it. An almost new, low mileage, Yamaha C3 for $9000! I prefer the satin finish on my old one to this glossy one (gloss means you get to see my couch, legs, socks, etc. in the pictures), but it's still gorgeous.

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#1955509 - 09/07/12 04:29 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Congrats- it's beautiful and, personally, I think high gloss is more elegant and (this I know for a fact as I am an expert cleaning person, genetically ) easier to clean!

smile

Enjoy!
(I do wish someone would post a pic of some dumpy old piano they have so I could feel better....oh well, it's all good)
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#1955513 - 09/07/12 04:33 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Sam it looks awesome!!! You are going to love it I'm sure. Many happy musical days to you!
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#1955525 - 09/07/12 04:53 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Sam.. You got the acquisition bug too now. Great deal!

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#1955545 - 09/07/12 05:27 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Wow, congratulations, Sam!

I guess PAS (piano acquisition syndrome) is contagious on PW. smile

And, you got a fantastic deal! Most C3’s I see on CL and else ware around that age are at least $15K.

Enjoy!!

Rick
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#1955557 - 09/07/12 06:00 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Nice Sam!! She's a beauty!
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#1955569 - 09/07/12 06:52 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Sam, it doesnt matter about your couch, it matters less about your legs, and your socks, well only you really know if they matter ( my guess is that they are unimportant in the bigger picture)

what does matter is that you have just aquired a wonderfull piano, well done sir, welcome to the non steinway owners club.
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#1955578 - 09/07/12 07:06 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Sam,

Congratulations! Your piano looks fabulous and will sound that way once it's been tuned. I wish you many happy years playing it.

As you can tell from my signature, I love C3's
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#1955579 - 09/07/12 07:09 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Sweet.
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#1955599 - 09/07/12 07:51 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Loc: Canada
Looks great! Well done!
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#1955606 - 09/07/12 08:06 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Sam, now that you have that magnificent piano, I hope it keeps you out of taverns! LOL!!!! I know mine makes me want to get home quickly after work, and after 7 months I still feel the thrill to come home and sit right down!
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#1955626 - 09/07/12 08:46 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Registered: 12/11/09
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Beautiful Sam ! These Yamaha C3s from this period are great. It seems like a very good deal.

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#1955639 - 09/07/12 09:14 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Loc: Australia
Oh dear - I hope PAS (Piano Acquisition Syndrome) doesn't make it down-under. I've already bought 2 pianos in 2½ years.

But it looks like a great piano you've got. It may need a few tunings, though, after this time.
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#1955718 - 09/08/12 12:55 AM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Congrats!

Enjoy your new piano!

Norbert smile
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#1955729 - 09/08/12 02:20 AM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
lilylady Offline
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Who sees a couch and legs, when we can see a purty piano?

;-)
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#1955739 - 09/08/12 02:56 AM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: lilylady]
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Congratulations on your new piano. PAS is very contagious!
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#1955787 - 09/08/12 09:05 AM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: piano joy]
Teodor Offline
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Registered: 12/16/09
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Loc: Bulgaria
Originally Posted By: piano joy
Congrats- it's beautiful and, personally, I think high gloss is more elegant and (this I know for a fact as I am an expert cleaning person, genetically ) easier to clean!

smile

Enjoy!
(I do wish someone would post a pic of some dumpy old piano they have so I could feel better....oh well, it's all good)


There you go, it looks a bit worse than in the pic laugh

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#1955801 - 09/08/12 09:25 AM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Registered: 08/01/12
Posts: 235
What a great find. Older C3s seems to be all over the map, voice-wise. The brand-new ones can be wonderfully mellow. How would you say this one sounds? Post a recording after you get it tuned.

Congratulations!

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#1955942 - 09/08/12 01:44 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
Robert 45 Offline
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Registered: 08/18/06
Posts: 1199
Loc: Auckland New Zealand
It looks a fine, sturdy piano and after those years without servicing, it will be exciting to develop its potential and turn it into a beautiful musical instrument.

Congratulations!

Robert.

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#1956095 - 09/08/12 07:18 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: jawhitti]
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It might be interesting to hear a recording both pre and post servicing?
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#1956775 - 09/10/12 05:29 AM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
Sam Rose Offline
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Registered: 02/16/11
Posts: 669
Loc: Los Angeles
Thanks for all the kind comments!
I'd be happy to post a recording pre and post tuning, although it will hurt your ears really badly to hear it pre tuning. I've been inspecting it more thoroughly, and it's pretty amazing how low the mileage is. The hammers have no grooves at all, except in the middle section which has a tiny amount (visible only if you look from the right angle). I think the action is going to need regulation, because the hammers don't go close enough to the strings, so I can't play pp. It shouldn't be a problem to have my tech do it though.

A couple other interesting notes about the piano...
The una corda wasn't working when I went to check out the piano, so I removed the right block next to the action (I forget what it's called) and found an 1877 silver trade dollar (I gave it back. Apparently an uncle has a coin collection and a kid stuck one in the piano). After that, the una corda worked fine.
I also heard some rustling when opening and closing the fallboard, so I removed the fallboard to find: a broken Popsicle stick; an old piece of sheet music; and an invitation to a student's recital at Julliard from the 1991-1992 season (the year the piano was made/purchased). It's really amazing to me that someone would spend that much money on a musical instrument only to have it sit in a corner of a living room, totally neglected and uncared for frown (although, to their credit, they definitely cared for the finish, which is perfect).
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#1956784 - 09/10/12 07:00 AM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Posts: 4977
Loc: boston north
It's really amazing to me that someone would spend that much money on a musical instrument only to have it sit in a corner of a living room, totally neglected and uncared for (although, to their credit, they definitely cared for the finish, which is perfect).

"They" say that Steinways are purchased for this at times as well. More $$$ sitting in the corner. Did Madoff play?
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#1956799 - 09/10/12 07:45 AM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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#1956824 - 09/10/12 08:52 AM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Sam, I watched your youtube video. I can't believe you've been playing for only 2 years. You sound amazing.

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#1956831 - 09/10/12 09:06 AM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: joe80]
Sam Rose Offline
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Loc: Los Angeles
Originally Posted By: joe80
Sam, I watched your youtube video. I can't believe you've been playing for only 2 years. You sound amazing.


That's very nice of you smile

Just out of curiosity, which video did you watch? I haven't recorded much in a long time, because I don't think my playing sounds very good right now (my ear has gotten much better, so I hear all the problems with my playing).
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#1957010 - 09/10/12 04:02 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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As your ear gets better, your playing sounds worse to yourself. Don't worry, its normal.

I heard Chopin Fantasie-Impromptu, and the end of the first Ballade. These are both very difficult, and you play with flair, you know, and great musicality. Your technique is good too, well above what I would expect from someone who has been playing for so little time. In fact, so far above I'd believe it if you told me you'd been playing since you were 11. You could probably do a convincing audition for a conservatoire or university playing as you are.

Do you play the staple repertoire of Bach, Beethoven, Czerny, Haydn, Mozart and Schubert?

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#1957018 - 09/10/12 04:18 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: joe80]
Sam Rose Offline
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Originally Posted By: joe80
As your ear gets better, your playing sounds worse to yourself. Don't worry, its normal.

I heard Chopin Fantasie-Impromptu, and the end of the first Ballade. These are both very difficult, and you play with flair, you know, and great musicality. Your technique is good too, well above what I would expect from someone who has been playing for so little time. In fact, so far above I'd believe it if you told me you'd been playing since you were 11. You could probably do a convincing audition for a conservatoire or university playing as you are.

Do you play the staple repertoire of Bach, Beethoven, Czerny, Haydn, Mozart and Schubert?



Thanks for the comments. I'm glad it's normal for my playing to sound worse, because it's somewhat discouraging at times.

Those recordings are old though, and I don't think they're very good. The Fantaisie Impromptu was taken at just over one year from when I started playing, and it looks like my hands are trying to jump off a cliff or something shocked (and sounds that way too).
The end of the ballade is from about 16 months, and it also needed a lot of work (much of that work has been done). I only had an upright when I recorded the end of the ballade; now I'm on my second grand! I really got bit by this bug very hard laugh

I don't play enough repertoire, because my reading is awful. I'm working on that now, instead of new repertoire. The only real pieces I "finished" are the Impromptu and Nocturne in C sharp minor (in fact, the Nocturne is the only recording on my channel that I think is pretty good, although it still has some very rough edges). I say "finished," because I learned them on my own, and I need to comb over everything with my new teacher. The Ballade has a couple missing measures (but I've memorized 98% of it), and it's on the back burner until I get some more important things done.
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#1957085 - 09/10/12 06:08 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: joe80]
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Originally Posted By: joe80
As your ear gets better, your playing sounds worse to yourself. Don't worry, its normal.


Huh? That most certainly is not normal. Opposite to reality, in fact. Where did you get that idea? In fact many musicians do not listen when they are playing, but those that do, get better.

So, as your listening gets better, your playing sounds better (to yourself and others) because it is in fact getting better - because you are listening to yourself!

Lawrence
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#1957125 - 09/10/12 07:58 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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The way I'm understanding "the ear gets better" to mean that one is listening more critically to one's own playing. Then the subtleties of phrasing, articulation, pedaling, etc., etc., become more apparent to the player and lead to the "feeling worse about your playing syndrome." In fact, you are getting better. That is what practicing and mastery are all about. The cycle is endless, as it should be.
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#1957132 - 09/10/12 08:15 PM Re: Help! I've got piano acquisition syndrome! New Yamaha C3! [Re: Sam Rose]
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Originally Posted By: Minnesota Marty
The way I'm understanding "the ear gets better" to mean that one is listening more critically to one's own playing. Then the subtleties of phrasing, articulation, pedaling, etc., etc., become more apparent to the player and lead to the "feeling worse about your playing syndrome." In fact, you are getting better. That is what practicing and mastery are all about. The cycle is endless, as it should be.

Some times I think my piano playing is getting better, much better... then I hear someone play who really know how, and I have second thoughts... smile

Either way, it's still a lot of fun!

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