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Oops, you're right, I thought the PX130 had an LCD and I see now that it doesn't. Been a while since I saw one in a store.


Well, there's this (from the P105 manual):

"To turn on/off the Damper Resonance:
While holding down [DEMO/SONG] and [METRONOME/
RHYTHM] simultaneously, press the
G4 key (on; default) or G#4 key (off)."

Quite cumbersomely implemented IMO. The P105 is chock full of this kind of thing. Even a 3 digit seven segment LED display could be a big help here.

[EDIT]To be fair, the PX130 is full of this too, and both have markings above the keyboard to make it a little easier.

Costco was selling the Casio CDP200 with LCD display (plus bench and stand) for $450.

I stopped reading that guy's blog after he continuously recommended the AP620 after practically every DP review he did. Its like "Look at this new model. It looks nice..but...contact me to find out how to get the Casio AP620 at a good price".

Sometimes I like not having a LCD on a piano- in some instances it seems more appropriate on a workstation such as a Juno Gi or Motif type board.

Sometimes if I am playing in the dark at night, I don't mind not having a glowing LCD coming from the piano. Its like a break from the computer.

I think it makes more sense to have it in an item with 100-200 sounds, but not as necessary in a 12-15 sound piano.

On the other hand you have these silly type features like holding down keys and pressing other keys to change reverb.

The one pet peeve I do have sometimes is having to use a piano key to change a patch-

The now discontinued Casio PX-575R had an LCD display and retailed for $599. The display was about the size of the older WK series workstations that this model was based on. The CDP-220 is a cheaper version of the 575 based on the now discontinued WK-500 keyboard.

I haven't come across any weighted action DP with an LCD screen in the $600 price range.

But I agree that a simple LED display would have offered a better UI in the P-105. They have changed the chasis design anyways.

bsl100, I expect an update to the Yamaha P155 will be announced at NAMM or Musikmesse, and will likely include an LCD display to compete with the Roland FP-7F and Kawai ES7.

Cheers,
James
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Thanks James. The ES7 and FP-7F are two really great boards and Yamaha is really missing out in this segment. These two boards offer a lot of features, whereas the P-155 is priced at a lower category and does not offer the bells and whistles which come with the other two boards. I feel the ES7 is going to be the one to beat in this segment.

I have been considering the P-105 as a lighter option for church use. The few pianist styles and rhythms and line outs are added benefits along with rounded speakers and tweeters.

The P-155 as well as the ES7 and FP-7F are pretty heavy in comparison.

I would be inclined to go with the ES7 myself, as I already own an EP3 which has very good sounds and action, even as an older model from 2008. Looks like the ES7 has the best response (with a triple sensor action) and improved sounds.

For your employer's sake, I hope Yamaha does not come out with a $1000 P155 replacement that can really compete with the $2000 Rolands and Kawais. ;-)

At the moment, I guess their FP-7F/ES7 competitor is the CP-300. It has been a while, I wonder if they will come out with a new high end portable with speakers.

Don't forget that the P155 is far cheaper in the US than other parts of the world. In Europe, for example, the P155 is almost the same price as the ES7. Therefore, I still believe the P155 is Yamaha's closest competitor to the ES7 (outside of the US, at least) - actually, the FP-7F is considerably more expensive.

Cheers,
James
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Ah!

IMHO the CP300 does not offer the bells and whistles of the ES7/FP-7F. It does have better speakers though. But the weight is a disadvantage.

bsl100, have you heard the ES7's speakers?

No, I haven't. Its the output specs that I was referring to. What I was implying was that the CP300 is in a different category compared to the other two boards.

I'm in the market for a lighter alternative to the P-155 for Church use for my daughter. With a few bells and whistles if possible. The P-105 is an option, though I'll be compromising on the key action. As I had mentioned, we have a Clavinova CVP503PE for home use. Wanted to remain in the Yamaha universe as others also use the same styles and rhythms and practice at home will be easy on the Clavinova. The DGX 640 is a bit heavy to cart around. That's the reason I was hoping that Yamaha can come up with something like the PX-350, which is like a lightweight option of the DGX with better polyphony and connectors.

Ah, I see. Yes, you're right, the CP300 occupies a slightly different category to the FP-7F, ES7, and P155. Actually, it's something of a cult board for this reason.

Cheers,
James
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Hi everyone!

In your opinion, what is the best buy: Yamaha P105 or Casio Privia PX-150?
Which one has better piano sounds and keys?

Cheers,
Carlos

Good morning Carlos and welcome to the forum!
Although neither board has been out yet here is my speculation:
The speakers on the PX-150 might be better based on the speakers from the previous models.
The PX-150 will have simulated ebony and ivory touch.
In terms of the keys-you would have to try them out yourself and decide- this is the most subjective area.
The PX-150 will offer a few more variations of the main piano sound and a brilliance setting to make it darker or brighter.
The Yamaha will typically offer one piano sound and then a brighter version of it while Casio will offer a bright,mellow,classic,modern and then a 5th one.
*In my opinion though the Rhodes is better on the Casio.

Thanks for the reply, Possum P95! It is a pleasure to be here in the forum. I'm really undecided on which one to buy, so all your opinions are welcome. You're right, the PX-150 has more variations off the main piano sound... +1 for Casio