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#1962336 - 09/21/12 11:30 PM Stage Piano recommendations?
Razor Offline
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Registered: 09/21/12
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Hello, I'm new to the forum. I've always been interested in trying my hand at piano/keyboard, but this post isn't about that.

We have a Roland RD-500 digital piano at my church that we've had for probably 15 years now. A lot of the keys are starting to show serious wear, and the sound quality just isn't up to what we want. I feel like it should sound both "brighter" and "sweeter" than it does.

So, we're looking for a replacement, and I figured here would be as good of a place as any to ask. We are looking for a quality stage piano for use in a contemporary worship setting. For reference, listen to just about anything off the "God Is Able" album by Hillsong. That's basically what we're looking for.

Any recommendations?

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#1962375 - 09/22/12 01:51 AM Re: Stage Piano recommendations? [Re: Razor]
Kawai James Offline
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Razor, depending on your budget and requirements, there are a range of great boards to choose from:

With speakers
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- Roland FP-4F, FP-7F
- Kawai ES7
- Yamaha P105, P155, CP300

Without speakers
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- Roland RD-300NX, RD-700NX
- Kawai MP6, MP10
- Yamaha CP50, CP5, CP1
- Nord Stage 2, Nord Piano 2
- Korg SV-1

Perhaps you could provide a little more information about your budget and intended use - e.g. just acoustic piano sounds, or also strings, electric pianos, organs, etc. Is portability a requirement, or will the instrument essentially remain in a single place?

Kind regards,
James
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#1962376 - 09/22/12 01:51 AM Re: Stage Piano recommendations? [Re: Razor]
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The best stage pianos currently available are:
Yamaha CP1 ($5k) - light action; limited range of sounds
Yamaha CP5 ($2.6k) - light action; wide range of sounds

Roland V-Piano ($7k) - 3-sensor medium-light action; acoustic piano sounds only
Roland RD-700NX ($2.7k) - 3-sensor medium-light action; wide range of sounds

Kawai MP10 ($2.5k) - medium-heavy action; limited range of sounds

Nord Piano 2 ($3k) - medium action; wide range of sounds

For church use, given that the piano will probably remain mainly in one place I would probably choose between the physically heavy, wooden-keyed Kawai MP10 and the rather long Roland RD-700NX, as both offer a very high quality acoustic piano sound as well as a great action. The Roland also features "drawbar" organs. The Yamaha CP5 is also very good, with excellent modeled electric piano sounds. I don't think that it's necessary to spend more than about 2.5k or so, as the law of diminishing returns kicks in pretty strongly above this price point.

Incidentally, you'll find both the Kawai and Yamaha models somewhat brighter than the Roland, but the Roland has a more natural decay. All of them can sound "sweet," but personal preference will dictate which sounds best.


Edited by voxpops (09/22/12 01:57 AM)
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#1962624 - 09/22/12 03:05 PM Re: Stage Piano recommendations? [Re: Kawai James]
Razor Offline
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Registered: 09/21/12
Posts: 17
Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Razor, depending on your budget and requirements, there are a range of great boards to choose from:

With speakers
-------------
- Roland FP-4F, FP-7F
- Kawai ES7
- Yamaha P105, P155, CP300

Without speakers
----------------
- Roland RD-300NX, RD-700NX
- Kawai MP6, MP10
- Yamaha CP50, CP5, CP1
- Nord Stage 2, Nord Piano 2
- Korg SV-1

Perhaps you could provide a little more information about your budget and intended use - e.g. just acoustic piano sounds, or also strings, electric pianos, organs, etc. Is portability a requirement, or will the instrument essentially remain in a single place?

Kind regards,
James
x


Without speakers, as the keys will be plugged into the sound system.

As I said before, the keys are only used for contemporary worship really. If it can nail most of the Hillsong piano sounds, it has all the range we need.

We take the keys with us to retreats and such but that's only once or twice a year, otherwise the keys stay put.

I'd rather find a few good options and then present them to the church leadership to decide on rather than specifying a budget.

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#1962645 - 09/22/12 03:37 PM Re: Stage Piano recommendations? [Re: Razor]
Razor Offline
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Registered: 09/21/12
Posts: 17
Alright,

I think I've narrowed it down to the Roland RD-700NX, the Kawai MP10, or the Nord Piano 2.

That Nord has a great piano sound. I'm really digging that one. I haven't gotten to hear much of the Kawai's range from youtube videos, I'll keep looking. The RD-700NX has a crazy amount of options and sounds, which could be nice for us. They all seem to be in about the same price range too. I'm going to look into these a little deeper.

Thanks for the suggestions so far.

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#1962655 - 09/22/12 04:11 PM Re: Stage Piano recommendations? [Re: Razor]
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Razor, the Nord Piano 2 has perhaps the most natural-sounding pianos of the three models on your shortlist, but the least convincing action.
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#1962667 - 09/22/12 04:40 PM Re: Stage Piano recommendations? [Re: voxpops]
Razor Offline
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Registered: 09/21/12
Posts: 17
Originally Posted By: voxpops
Razor, the Nord Piano 2 has perhaps the most natural-sounding pianos of the three models on your shortlist, but the least convincing action.


So probably something our piano player would want to try in person before we pulled the trigger, eh?

Hopefully one of the local shops will have one or more of these available to demo.

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#1962677 - 09/22/12 04:59 PM Re: Stage Piano recommendations? [Re: Razor]
voxpops Offline
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Registered: 03/20/07
Posts: 3204
Loc: Wales
Originally Posted By: Razor
So probably something our piano player would want to try in person before we pulled the trigger, eh?


Exactly!
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#1962752 - 09/22/12 07:04 PM Re: Stage Piano recommendations? [Re: Razor]
Kawai James Offline
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Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 12096
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
Originally Posted By: Razor
Originally Posted By: voxpops
Razor, the Nord Piano 2 has perhaps the most natural-sounding pianos of the three models on your shortlist, but the least convincing action.


So probably something our piano player would want to try in person before we pulled the trigger, eh?

Hopefully one of the local shops will have one or more of these available to demo.


Yes, it's essential that you (and/or the pianist) play test the instruments before making any kind of purchasing decision.

The Nord allows a wide range of additional sounds to be download from the internet, however it's worth bearing in mind that an instrument in the store may not be using the latest software or best piano sounds.

Best of luck!

Cheers,
James
x

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