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Originally Posted by Robert Di Santo
Minnesota mouth is @ it again...jeeez with this guy.. Don't you get it? your like a mosquito, Wheres the fly swatter? LOL
If your going to post in this forum act your age not your shoe size.



Robert, knock it off. Jeez.

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I agree Robert knock it off!


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFmEByS9Z0w&feature=share&list=ULPFmEByS9Z0w
5'1" Indonesian baby grand with Granite bridges and fitted with 20 additional dampers in comparison to a Fazoli 6'3 Grand..
This technology applies to ALL stringed instruments.
To play this instrument contact Pianoforte Chicago.


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I watched the video..comparing a 6ft piano to a 5ft1" is comparing apples to oranges?
they should be of equal length..the bass is dead in the 5' piano which creates an unbalanced loudness in the treble side, though the sustain is nice..

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Be careful, Bob. You could be the next target.

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Originally Posted by Robert Di Santo
Minnesota mouth is @ it again...jeeez with this guy.. Don't you get it? your like a mosquito, Wheres the fly swatter? LOL
If your going to post in this forum act your age not your shoe size.



*You're, *Where's, *You're(again!).

Witty repartee is best executed with a functional use of the English language, wit notwithstanding.

You might want to give that some thought before your (or is it, "you're?") next attack.


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OperaTenor,

You still looking for that black spec on your little white piece of paper? Don't bother me with your Babble. You and several others have no contributing dialogue to this topic and yet you still come back...

Seems you would be better as a english major since you aren't talking about pianos which this forum is used for. I have never attacked anyone one in this forum other than pointing out the folks that speak from emotion than fact which the naysayers who have posted garble have already identified themselves as such.

Stonetone® is here to discuss certain findings and talk to anyone interested in this concept than fuss with folks like you who babble about non related issues.







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Hi Robert
I keep wondering: Why not use glass instead of granite? Glass should have similar bridge mass and transmission properties that is the essence of your approach, but should:
1) Be easier and cheaper to fabricate.
2) Less chance of microfractures and microfissures (a concern with some posters).
3) The homogeneity of glass should reduce the possibility of random refraction of sound waves as it passes though the various densities of mineral components within granite. i.e. sound waves should be less distorted as they pass through glass rather than granite.


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Originally Posted by Robert Di Santo
OperaTenor,

You still looking for that black spec on your little white piece of paper? Don't bother me with your Babble. You and several others have no contributing dialogue to this topic and yet you still come back...

Seems you would be better as a english major since you aren't talking about pianos which this forum is used for. I have never attacked anyone one in this forum other than pointing out the folks that speak from emotion than fact which the naysayers who have posted garble have already identified themselves as such.

Stonetone® is here to discuss certain findings and talk to anyone interested in this concept than fuss with folks like you who babble about non related issues.







Two things:

1) Congratulations! You must have proofread this one. Except, "babble" isn't capitalized. Tsk, tsk...

2) Piling on more insults and using emotion as an excuse do nothing for your 'scientific' case.

As for the relevance of my posts, you'd know better if you bothered getting a feel for this forum before pitching your sideshow. After your silly and insulting first response to my reasonable inquiries, I gave up on you. And, after sitting back and watching you insult experts, professionals, and enthusiasts here alike, it seems to me you need a boost getting off your high horse. You want to come across as credible and rational? Express yourself accurately and properly, and treat your audience with respect.

Another piece of advice: Any data or proof has to be logically presented and intelligible. Poorly recorded videos on YouTube of crappy pianos recorded from different perspectives only proves you aren't meticulous or properly prepared, which speaks directly to your lack of credibility.



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How about glass with wooden bridge pins?


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Originally Posted by Robert Di Santo
Seems that the disrespect started with your continual slams.. and yet you keep coming back for more, how dumb are you? relaxe and try to digest what is the NEW technology to understand, like it or not, it is real.

Crackpot alert.

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Bob newbie,

We had access to a fazioli and wanted to compare a high end to a crude entry level piano. We didn't have another Story & Clark 1 was enough..
In person the results were obvious and we all heard the difference. The recording can't produce what was heard in person even tho this was 1 of dozens more tests we will be doing as more pianos are completed.
9' SD Baldwin is soon to be done by the new year. This grand will be the most accurate of all tests to date.


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Chris,

Glass is manufactured by man and cannot have the same or better qualities than the natural occurring mineral such as "STONE"



One other point to remember is that although you might expect an effect that is experienced equally in all directions, the piezoelectric effect is polarised.  In other words the quartz crystal might be struck from above(string vibration) but it gives out its charge horizontally and vertically, and vice versa.  Also, crystal is such a refined stone, refined in that its molecular structure – its atomic structure - is reflected in its outward pyramid shape, while granite is a composite stone. 

In fact the crystal shape suggests something of its inherent properties, for there are usually very well defined points and faces to a crystal and it is from these points that lines of power emanate from the stone as energy is transduced.

A quartz crystal transduces geomantic energy to chi, fire energy or prana or any combination of these.  It also transduces kinetic energy [being struck or vibrating] to electrical energy.  It can do all of these all at the same time, and all the reverse way round as well.  It never turns off.  If there is a difference in energy levels present then the crystal will transduce accordingly. 

A granite monolith, as it is partly comprised of quartz crystals, will do this as well. Similarities are easy.  Crystal is stone - granite is stone.  Electrical - piezoelectric effects and transducing effects in a crystal are the same with granite. Now let us turn our regard to stones.  The temptation is to liken a quartz crystal, just one type of stone, to another type of stone - granite.  Of course, having similar molecular properties there are basic similarities, besides being both ‘Stone’.  It would be most unusual otherwise, since granite is partly comprised of crystals.  The same kind of properties seem to be displayed so there is the obvious temptation to say that one can be used in a similar way as the other; the scale being the only real difference.

There is also the pattern that is established between the Earth body and the human body.  There are lines of power in both in that you have the ‘ley’ lines of the Earth body and ‘meridians’ of the human body - and the health of both bodies seem to be inextricably mixed with these lines.  The temptation is to equate the one with the other.  ( which has been noted when tuned to 444 )

Put those two together and you have a double temptation in that as you use quartz crystals on the human body so you may use granite on the Earth body. Our pyramid shape bridge can convert earth/ley line energy into seismic (acoustic) waves in a wide range of frequencies. Each pyramid shape or design has its own unique emitting frequency.

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We are in early stages of development and were not selling anything @ this time other than showing on a crude entry level piano this concept works and wanted to let others be aware of what's to evolve as we produce additional pianos of a better quality in the future. The next piano will be a 1965 Baldwin SD 9' concert grand recorded professionally.


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http://youtu.be/Kr4gd7JWSzs < this clip has only 68 dampers (Clair de lune) compared to the other videos before Naples piano added 20 more dampers.

http://youtu.be/PFmEByS9Z0w Clair De Lune


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWiAbHCpKDg&feature=share&list=ULrWiAbHCpKDg Grieg Nocturne Op.54,No.4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_JhOKO10ok&feature=share&list=ULn_JhOKO10ok Excerpt from Beethoven Moonlight


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCwKxCY6YhI&feature=share&list=ULyCwKxCY6YhI Excerpt from chopin Etude Op.10, No.3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vk75CetScA&feature=share&list=UL4vk75CetScA Excerpt from Beethoven Adagio


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I91cxjEhzeU&feature=share&list=ULI91cxjEhzeU Ode to joy Wood Vs Granite


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Originally Posted by Robert Di Santo
A quartz crystal transduces geomantic energy to chi, fire energy or prana or any combination of these.  It also transduces kinetic energy [being struck or vibrating] to electrical energy.  It can do all of these all at the same time, and all the reverse way round as well.  It never turns off.  If there is a difference in energy levels present then the crystal will transduce accordingly. 


Robert

This is very exciting as I had never considered these things before.

Can you explain how the geomantic energy affects the sound? Or is it to do with transducing of power between the ‘ley’ lines of the Earth body (I presume this is the natural granite) and ‘meridians’ of the human body that have such a profound effect on our appreciation of music?


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Robert, back to the subject of facts in regards to the granite bridges... because granite is quite different from traditional wood two things would concern me in its application as a bridge.

First of all the feldspar and quartz are both extremely hard on the Mohs scale, harder than the steel wire sitting on it. Will the wire not get deformed, abraded or notched as it gets drawn back and forth across the termination points with the angular pressure of the strings downbearing?

Secondly, granite can have a relatively high PH, and will this alkalinity not promote corrosion on the steel wire next to it should conditions of higher than normal humidity exist (which would promote it)?



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Originally Posted by Emmery
Robert, back to the subject of facts in regards to the granite bridges... because granite is quite different from traditional wood two things would concern me in its application as a bridge.

First of all the feldspar and quartz are both extremely hard on the Mohs scale, harder than the steel wire sitting on it. Will the wire not get deformed, abraded or notched as it gets drawn back and forth across the termination points with the angular pressure of the strings downbearing?

Secondly, granite can have a relatively high PH, and will this alkalinity not promote corrosion on the steel wire next to it should conditions of higher than normal humidity exist (which would promote it)?


Why not use agraffes?


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The strings are spun using only the finest Roslau Silk Worms and the hammers are hand-forged by Nibelungen. In the Organic Completion of the Cycle of the Earth, the bridges are harvested from the Wapin Forest on the 4th day, of the 4th month, every 4th year, using crystalline saws tuned to 444Hz.


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