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#1967947 - 10/02/12 08:55 PM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: Kbeaumont]
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Mike, can you do the PX-150 now? lol
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#1967961 - 10/02/12 09:29 PM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: Kbeaumont]
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#1967966 - 10/02/12 09:36 PM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: BrokenChord]
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Mike, can you do the PX-150 now? lol The PX-150 has the identical piano sample. The mellow piano preset on the PX-150 is very similar to the dolce preset on the PX-350. You may also want to experiment when different touch settings to get this soft delicate sound.
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#1967977 - 10/02/12 09:59 PM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: voxpops]
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In the end, it makes me start to wonder whether it really is worth spending so much more for the marginal improvements offered by the other brands - especially given the Casio's low weight. If they could just provide really good Rhodes and Wurli variants as well, I'd be tempted.
yes voxpops, i'm thinking exactly the same thing. i'm looking at my "traveling board" a yamaha p-250 weighing in at over 70 lbs- a great dp in its day but i'd have to say with the recordings i've just listened to from Mike Martin and the px-350 weighing in @ 25-30 lbs- and at a price of $799.... seems like a no-brainer. i've been wanting to find something i can lug easily to some senior living places to play for the old folks and this sure looks like a winner...particularly for background solo piano stuff.. anybody know what a mint condition p-250 would fetch these days?
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#1967982 - 10/02/12 10:07 PM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: Mike_Martin]
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#1968028 - 10/02/12 11:11 PM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: bfb]
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anybody know what a mint condition p-250 would fetch these days? No idea about the P250, but I hope you'll use this as an excuse to come up and visit us. We've talked about that before. I still have a PX-330 next to the new PX-350 so you can see the progress...not to mention a couple of acoustic pianos. 
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#1968046 - 10/02/12 11:54 PM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: Mike_Martin]
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16MB! Goodness I dragged that into Audacity and re-saved with 145-185 preset and reduced to 6MB.
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#1968071 - 10/03/12 01:12 AM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: Mike_Martin]
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Mike, Casio offered some decent sounding EP's in the old WK-3000 through 3800 series workstations. Many of these ended up on the discontinued PX410/575 DP. I think some of these sounds are available on the Casio Music site. Are any of these files compatible with the newer WK-7000/7500, XWP1/G1 or the new PX-350? Can they be downloaded into the flash memory?
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#1968118 - 10/03/12 07:06 AM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: galaxy4t]
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Mike, Casio offered some decent sounding EP's in the old WK-3000 through 3800 series workstations. Many of these ended up on the discontinued PX410/575 DP. I think some of these sounds are available on the Casio Music site. Are any of these files compatible with the newer WK-7000/7500, XWP1/G1 or the new PX-350? Can they be downloaded into the flash memory? I believe the sounds you're referring to were dependent on the old ZPI processing chip, as the ones that have appeared since then (despite similar names) have not sounded the same. In my opinion, the WK3000 series was something of a Casio classic. I sometimes wish I still had my WK3700 (sold because it was a bit too bulky), as the keyboard patches could hold their own against the Nord Electro of similar vintage.
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#1968122 - 10/03/12 07:18 AM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: PianoWorksATL]
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anybody know what a mint condition p-250 would fetch these days? No idea about the P250, but I hope you'll use this as an excuse to come up and visit us. We've talked about that before. I still have a PX-330 next to the new PX-350 so you can see the progress...not to mention a couple of acoustic pianos.  i will do that Sam. thanks again for the offer!
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#1968158 - 10/03/12 09:45 AM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: xorbe]
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16MB! Goodness I dragged that into Audacity and re-saved with 145-185 preset and reduced to 6MB. Sorry for the large file size but I have a big problem with MP3's and what they do with solo piano. Lower bit rates can destroy the attack portion of notes, adding all kinds of artifacts.
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#1968172 - 10/03/12 10:09 AM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: Mike_Martin]
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Sorry for the large file size but I have a big problem with MP3's and what they do with solo piano. Lower bit rates can destroy the attack portion of notes, adding all kinds of artifacts.
i hear you... does this mean i should drag out my 1990's vintage Walkman CD player when i want to listen to piano music while hiking... instead of the iPod....? or is there a more portable alternative for playing a full wav file intstead of MP3... EDIT: i guess i could play AIFF files on the iPhone/iTunes? but i better dump half of my stuff to accommodate..
Edited by bfb (10/03/12 10:15 AM)
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#1968209 - 10/03/12 12:03 PM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: Mike_Martin]
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The PX-150 has the identical piano sample. The mellow piano preset on the PX-150 is very similar to the dolce preset on the PX-350. You may also want to experiment when different touch settings to get this soft delicate sound. Thanks for that info Mike! Keeps me from having to test for it, and makes the PX-150 @ $599 seem like the deal. I wonder if we'll see 20% off on it around Xmas?
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#1968271 - 10/03/12 03:02 PM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: Kbeaumont]
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256kb/sec AAC or (better) higher will do, although I agree that file size compression does destroy delicate piano sounds. A lossless compression algorithm will be better, but saves less space. Personally I would stay totally away from mp3. It's really not suitable for capturing the finest details, but very good at destroying them. It's a very old algorithm as well. Much progress has been made since mp3's came around.
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#1968376 - 10/03/12 07:03 PM
Difference?
[Re: JFP]
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Love the samples, Mike! I'm curious... What's the difference between the Privia PX-850 and the Celviano AP-450, besides cabinet style? It seems they have all the same features: http://www.casio-europe.com/euro/news/detail/930/I know you work for Casio USA, but maybe you can contact someone in Casio Latin America for release dates of these babies?
Edited by Miguel Lescano (10/03/12 07:06 PM)
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#1968403 - 10/03/12 08:19 PM
Re: Difference?
[Re: Miguel Lescano]
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I am sure Mike will weigh in here, but I asked the same question of a Casio dealer here in the States today, and they said that they heard the new AP series models probably would not be shipping until early next year, like February.
I'm going to order a PX-750 on Friday.....I can't wait until February.
Dan
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#1968451 - 10/03/12 10:25 PM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: Mike_Martin]
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We won't see the new AP series here in the US until January 2013. On page 6.
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#1968520 - 10/04/12 02:02 AM
Re: CASIO releases 4 new models
[Re: dewster]
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The PX-150 has the identical piano sample. The mellow piano preset on the PX-150 is very similar to the dolce preset on the PX-350. You may also want to experiment when different touch settings to get this soft delicate sound. Thanks for that info Mike! Keeps me from having to test for it, and makes the PX-150 @ $599 seem like the deal. I wonder if we'll see 20% off on it around Xmas? Well, if we see the PX-150 for 20% off, then the PX-350 for $640 would get me on board in a heartbeat. 
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#1968578 - 10/04/12 08:46 AM
Re: Difference?
[Re: Miguel Lescano]
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Love the samples, Mike! I'm curious... What's the difference between the Privia PX-850 and the Celviano AP-450, besides cabinet style? It seems they have all the same features: http://www.casio-europe.com/euro/news/detail/930/I know you work for Casio USA, but maybe you can contact someone in Casio Latin America for release dates of these babies? I have the same question - does the Privia PX-850 have the same action and keyboard mechanism as the AP-450 and AP-650? I would like to get a cabinet style piano, and since here in the US the Privia will be here several months before the new AP models, if I like the Privia PX-850' action, then I'll be happy to wait until January for the AP-650. If anybody knows this answer that would be great! Thanks.
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#1968683 - 10/04/12 01:01 PM
Re: Difference?
[Re: dewster]
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Dewster- did you call them on the phone? Although a coupon might not work online they tend to work on the phone I had them give me a $100 of $499 in April for the PX130. I even got them to send the free stand and headphones a few weeks later that were supposedly excluded.
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#1968763 - 10/04/12 04:14 PM
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[Re: Possum SP280Krome]
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Dewster- did you call them on the phone? Although a coupon might not work online they tend to work on the phone I had them give me a $100 of $499 in April for the PX130. I even got them to send the free stand and headphones a few weeks later that were supposedly excluded. i would imagine you got that deal because the model clearance for the 130 was getting cranked up? i can't imagine casio wants to let retailers discount their new slabs before they're even fully stocked... getting back to voxpops earlier comments- and admitting i haven't seen nor played the new 150/350- it seems the pricing is already aggressive enough, and you wonder what the margins really are for roland etc on these $2000-3000 digitals. are the samples/speakers/action/on board electronics really that much better?
Edited by bfb (10/04/12 04:18 PM)
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#1968769 - 10/04/12 04:23 PM
Re: Difference?
[Re: Kbeaumont]
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No Mike,
Perhaps these questions we're already answered, but
1) can you adjust the input level of the line-ins on the px350, or are they always full throttle (meaning you have to adjust the output volume of the device you connect). The manual doesn't explain this. It just says attach your device to the line-ins either mono or stereo. That's all...
2) does the new Casio keybed have note off velocity (does it use / send note off velocity data). As far as the manual states in the midi implementation chard, it doesn't . But manuals are sometimes wrong.
3) are there new sound examples of the EP's of the new Casios (or are these examples basically the same as for the previous series) ?
Thanks a lot again for all your efforts and honest answers so far.
Edited by JFP (10/04/12 04:29 PM)
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#1968830 - 10/04/12 06:38 PM
Re: Difference?
[Re: JFP]
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No Mike,
Perhaps these questions we're already answered, but
1) can you adjust the input level of the line-ins on the px350, or are they always full throttle (meaning you have to adjust the output volume of the device you connect). The manual doesn't explain this. It just says attach your device to the line-ins either mono or stereo. That's all... The line input volume is not adjustable. You would need to adjust the volume of the device you're connecting. Not sure if this has been mentioned but whatever is plugged into the line input will also be recorded to the USB drive as audio.  2) does the new Casio keybed have note off velocity (does it use / send note off velocity data). As far as the manual states in the midi implementation chard, it doesn't . But manuals are sometimes wrong. The PX-850 has release velocity. It is not implemented in any other models. 3) are there new sound examples of the EP's of the new Casios (or are these examples basically the same as for the previous series) ? I have some coming. Probably tomorrow.
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#1968867 - 10/04/12 08:23 PM
Re: Difference?
[Re: bfb]
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Dewster- did you call them on the phone? Although a coupon might not work online they tend to work on the phone I had them give me a $100 of $499 in April for the PX130. I even got them to send the free stand and headphones a few weeks later that were supposedly excluded. i would imagine you got that deal because the model clearance for the 130 was getting cranked up? i can't imagine casio wants to let retailers discount their new slabs before they're even fully stocked... getting back to voxpops earlier comments- and admitting i haven't seen nor played the new 150/350- it seems the pricing is already aggressive enough, and you wonder what the margins really are for roland etc on these $2000-3000 digitals. are the samples/speakers/action/on board electronics really that much better? Got the deal 6 months ago- before the current series was announced. -The My Funny Valentine recording sounds great- that is how to sell a piano!!!!
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