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#1966394 - 09/29/12 05:10 PM New Electro 4HP
maurus Offline
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Registered: 05/21/11
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http://www.nordkeyboards.com/main.asp

Interesting to see that no one has commented yet...

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#1966399 - 09/29/12 05:20 PM Re: New Electro 4HP [Re: maurus]
voxpops Offline
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Registered: 03/20/07
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Loc: Oregon
Nice find, maurus! That additional sample memory is VERY welcome - and necessary, really, given the HP's piano pretensions. I understand why this version doesn't have drawbars (although drawbars and dual-timbrality would have been welcome). All-in-all, a nice upgrade. Now where are those new EP samples...?

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#1966401 - 09/29/12 05:21 PM Re: New Electro 4HP [Re: maurus]
Karnevil Offline
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Registered: 06/17/06
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I dunno, I've always been underwhelmed by Clavia. Great interface, great looking, but sounds rather anemic to me. I was quite impressed by the C1/2 hammond clone, but even that one has the thin Clavia-sound character, with the flat/squashed overdrive sound. It's very disappointing how digital technology still hasn't progressed further than it has IMO. Put on some 70s rock or jazzrock/fusion album and listen to that, man keyboards used to sound a lot better back then! (Heck even todays analog synthesizers sound weaker than the 70s ones.)
That's my two cents anyway.

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#1966403 - 09/29/12 05:25 PM Re: New Electro 4HP [Re: Karnevil]
voxpops Offline
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Loc: Oregon
Originally Posted By: Karnevil
I dunno, I've always been underwhelmed by Clavia. Great interface, great looking, but sounds rather anemic to me. I was quite impressed by the C1/2 hammond clone, but even that one has the thin Clavia-sound character, with the flat/squashed overdrive sound. Incredible how the digital technology still hasn't progressed further than it has IMO.. Put on some 70s rock or jazzrock/fusion album and listen to that, man keyboards used to sound a lot better back then! (Heck even todays analog synthesizers sound weaker than the 70s ones.)
That's my two cents anyway.

I know exactly what you mean. But I was reminded this weekend that my back won't do the '70s anymore!

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#1966406 - 09/29/12 05:28 PM Re: New Electro 4HP [Re: maurus]
Karnevil Offline
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Registered: 06/17/06
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I hear you! smile But still, they could use more memory with bigger samples (less looping) and more velocity layers, more powerful DSP chips for higher internal calculations (like John Bowen did in his Solaris synth), maybe even use some kind of real tube overdrive technology to actually get some decent overdrive effects.

Too much maximising profit margins going on in the industry, same thing with the Avant Grand. Again, a very good instrument, but with corners being cut here and there (including an underpowered DSP/CPU unit).
Sorry for ranting... smile

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#1966409 - 09/29/12 05:34 PM Re: New Electro 4HP [Re: Karnevil]
voxpops Offline
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Loc: Oregon
Originally Posted By: Karnevil
Too much maximising profit margins going on in the industry, same thing with the Avant Grand. Again, a very good instrument, but with corners being cut here and there (including an underpowered DSP/CPU unit).

Which is exactly why I wanted to give the Krome a try. It's the first time a reasonably priced instrument has offered the kind of full-on samples that even the top-end DPs can't muster. The catch is, I suspect, that the touted 3.8GB is not the actual memory size (due to compression), but even so, it's a start, and it puts even Nord to shame in that respect. However, there's more to making a good piano or organ emulation than sheer size.

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#1966481 - 09/29/12 07:27 PM Re: New Electro 4HP [Re: maurus]
Kawai James Online   content
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Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 8401
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
The increased memory is certainly welcome for loading the XL acoustic pianos. However, let's not forget that the currently available Rhodes, Wurly, and Clav sounds are relatively small (around 5mb each).

The improved organ/Leslie simulation is very attractive to me, however unless Clavia are planning to overhaul the EP offerings in order to take advantage of the larger memory capacity, I don't feel there's enough in this new board to convince me to upgrade.

I'm a little surprised that Clavia reverted back to the drawbuttons too. I wonder if there will ever be a NE4 (non-HP) with the drawbars + additional memory?

At the moment, the Krome looks very interesting, although I'd prefer a board with more 'direct' live controls, and have little need for the sequencer/workstation functions etc.

Cheers,
James
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#1966496 - 09/29/12 07:47 PM Re: New Electro 4HP [Re: Kawai James]
anotherscott Offline
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Registered: 02/20/10
Posts: 3076
Originally Posted By: Kawai James
I'm a little surprised that Clavia reverted back to the drawbuttons too.

Nord said somewhere that they did not intend to offer the drawbars on the larger electros, due to the increased cost. It is on the model most designed to appeal to the organ purist. But who knows, they could change their mind...

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#1966674 - 09/30/12 06:39 AM Re: New Electro 4HP [Re: maurus]
andi85 Offline
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Registered: 03/08/11
Posts: 90
Loc: Germany
That would make sense to me – drawbars for the 61, LEDs for the 73. After all, those LED drawbars aren't so bad.

So let's hope for new electric piano samples! smile
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