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#1966098 - 09/29/12 07:36 AM Garrick Ohlsson on pianos
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If I have posted this here before, my apologies. I cannot remember if I did and I just relistened to them myself.

Even if I did, this bears another listen - or a listen and some input from newer members. High End Piano Guy's blog is tremendous. Read through it. Believe me it is worth the time.

This post is a short series of several interviews with Garrick Ohlsson on pianos, performing, and just his feelings about music in general. It is a great insight.

Garrick Ohlsson Interviews

Anyway, I hope many take the time to listen to them. They aren't long and I would love your comments.
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#1966111 - 09/29/12 08:21 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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I'll give you a comment:

High End Piano Guy is a pretentious twit.

I ought to know...
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#1966138 - 09/29/12 09:45 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: BoseEric]
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Originally Posted By: BoseEric
I'll give you a comment:

High End Piano Guy is a pretentious twit.

I ought to know...


Full Disclosure = BoseEric IS High End Piano Guy.

Nice job Eric, you pretentious twit. wink
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#1966167 - 09/29/12 11:00 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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I have read most of the articles on Bosie Eric' blog. It's a perfect blog for many PW members. Not all of us are lucky enough to own a performance grade piano(especially the very costly ones in the top group), but many PW members are very interested in those pianos and they seem to get a lot of discussion on PW despite not being actually owned by that many members. It's quite amazing how much discussion there is at PW about pianos in the 75K and over range.

So thanks, Eric, for your fascinating and informative blog.

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#1966196 - 09/29/12 11:53 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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Great discussions...

Of course, I would like to have heard the pianos too. smile

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#1966208 - 09/29/12 12:06 PM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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Fantastic interview! Rich, thanks for posting it, and Eric, thanks for doing it!
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#1966239 - 09/29/12 01:11 PM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: ClsscLib]
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Hi Rich,
Yes, you did post this interview here a few years ago. It is a very insightful discussion and I like his open-minded attitude in not endorsing one excellent piano brand to the exclusion of the others.
It is a refreshing approach from a highly distinguished artist who certainly can speak with experience about the instrument.

Thank you for re-posting this invaluable snippet for all piano enthusiasts,

kind regards,

Robert.

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#1966276 - 09/29/12 02:23 PM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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If someone will give me a nice Steinway, Mason, Bosendorfer, and Fazioli I will be willing to post my comparison based on how well they are suited Jerry Lee Lewis' Whole Lot of Shakin Goin On.


Edited by pianoloverus (09/29/12 02:26 PM)

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#1966285 - 09/29/12 02:35 PM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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The most important sentence [in my mind..] that was said was this:

"Chopin is more important than the piano"

Couldn't agree more....

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#1966292 - 09/29/12 02:46 PM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Norbert]
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Ditto!
Kind regards,
Robert.

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#1966688 - 09/30/12 07:51 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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Originally Posted By: Rich Galassini
Originally Posted By: BoseEric
I'll give you a comment:

High End Piano Guy is a pretentious twit.

I ought to know...


Full Disclosure = BoseEric IS High End Piano Guy.

Nice job Eric, you pretentious twit. wink


Now everyone is going to refer to him as a pretentious twit. smirk

In all seriousness, thanks Rich for the interesting series of

topics...

allthumbs


Edited by allthumbs (09/30/12 07:53 AM)
Edit Reason: spelling
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#1966711 - 09/30/12 09:37 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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Great interview. Ohlsson brings up good ideas about the need to let pianos season in their venues rather than bringing them in for a concert, then shipping them back out. I am surprised that all the great halls don't do what the Boston does. Does anyone know which ones do?

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#1966855 - 09/30/12 02:39 PM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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I found it interesting - though I was hoping he was going to dish some dirt about the Steinway Artists arrangements and the effect that has on the diversity of performance pianos. He's obviously decided to sidestep that topic from now on.

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#1966874 - 09/30/12 03:21 PM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: ando]
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Originally Posted By: ando
I found it interesting - though I was hoping he was going to dish some dirt about the Steinway Artists arrangements and the effect that has on the diversity of performance pianos. He's obviously decided to sidestep that topic from now on.


ando,

Not from now on, but maybe for recorded posterity. He has been there and done that and it is all on record in the newspapers of the time. Garrick is so much more than that subject. It was ugly for the company involved, but it is over.

Incidentally, a few years ago, one day before a concert here in Philadelphia, we got a call from Ohlsson's people. He was playing here in Philly and preferred not to play on "the house" S&S. They wondered if we had a well prepared Bosie Imperial available, which we did.

BUT, instead of charging the usual $2500.00 to $3000.00 for an emergency Imperial rental, prep., and same night pick up, we asked if after his concert he could attend a reception in his honor that we put on in a hotel suite across the street from where he played. He said - keep it to 2 hours and less than 40 people and he would do it.

The evening was wonderful. I got to spend some quality time with Garrick and chatted about a variety of subjects - music, piano, opera (I am a singer). When the reception began, the Q&A session all centered around the subject you are reffering to and Mr. Ohlsson answered very frankly, but added that today, he is simply a fan of great pianos, and he played on one that evening. He got a wonderful round of applause.

At the end of the reception he signed some headshots that he had with him and gave me two - one for our store and one for me personally. This is what he signed for me:



It says - To Rich,
I wish I could sing like you.


To be clear, he has never heard me sing a note. He was just being nice guy and giving me something cool to hang over my desk. That is where it proudly hangs. thumb
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#1966951 - 09/30/12 05:23 PM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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Hi Rich, I can certainly understand how this issue may have become very tired in your part of the world. In Australia it didn't get any coverage here at all. I've only just recently heard about it through clicking on online newspaper articles. So I'm sorry if I raised something that is irritating to you. I wasn't aware that it had become so notorious/tedious for you folks.

For what it's worth, I am full of admiration for Garrick's integrity in the way he handled that whole issue. That was the main reason I was interested to hear his comments on it. I also think it's highly relevant to the discussion about pianos in specific venues. But I'm happy to leave that hornet's nest alone.

Nice personal story about Garrick, by the way. smile I've heard such great testimonials about you and your store, if I'm ever in your neck of the woods, I'm definitely going to pay Cunningham's a visit.

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#1967311 - 10/01/12 01:26 PM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: ando]
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Originally Posted By: ando
Hi Rich, I can certainly understand how this issue may have become very tired in your part of the world. In Australia it didn't get any coverage here at all. I've only just recently heard about it through clicking on online newspaper articles. So I'm sorry if I raised something that is irritating to you. I wasn't aware that it had become so notorious/tedious for you folks.

For what it's worth, I am full of admiration for Garrick's integrity in the way he handled that whole issue. That was the main reason I was interested to hear his comments on it. I also think it's highly relevant to the discussion about pianos in specific venues. But I'm happy to leave that hornet's nest alone.

Nice personal story about Garrick, by the way. smile I've heard such great testimonials about you and your store, if I'm ever in your neck of the woods, I'm definitely going to pay Cunningham's a visit.


ando,

I am not tired of it personally, but I think Garrick might be. That is what I was saying in my earlier post.

I think S&S acted horribly and their tactic in this case backfired. Frankly, instead of 1 review that Mr. Ohlsson expected, the debacle wound up getting multiple reviews and articles written on it, many of which are still available online if you google a little.

This entire situation probably helped Garrick's career and certainly put the name Bosendorfer into heads that had never considered it before.

The shame of it is that this type of behavior has not stopped and may have actually escalated since then.

My 2 cents,
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#1967320 - 10/01/12 01:44 PM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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Garrick Ohlssohn acted badly. It may have been unthinking, but he should not have agreed to the terms of the endorsement in the first place. Too many artists sign on to these deals without a genuine commitment to the product. They want the benefits without the responsibility.
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#1967332 - 10/01/12 02:07 PM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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I wonder what clout the term ´´Steinway Artist´´ has outside USA. Pierre-Laurent Aimard, a SA, played a high-profile concert in London not long ago on the Yamaha CFX, which was broadcast live by the BBC on their classical radio station Radio 3 (whose announcer mentioned that in case listeners thought the piano didn´t sound like a Steinway, indeed the piano used was a ´new model by Yamaha´).

And Aimard took the starring role in what amounted to a Steinway promotional DVD just before that, in which he carefully chose the Steinway D he wanted for his recording of Bach´s The Art of Fugue. And the subsequent recording of the same works he played in that concert was on Steinway...
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#1967371 - 10/01/12 03:44 PM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: BDB]
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Garrick Ohlssohn acted badly. It may have been unthinking, but he should not have agreed to the terms of the endorsement in the first place. Too many artists sign on to these deals without a genuine commitment to the product. They want the benefits without the responsibility.


BDB,

Please remember - there was no agreement. I won't go into the details now, but if you need me to I can.

Google Garrick Ohlsson Steinway and read the articles. He was just a young artist who liked Bosies and said so. He was not a Steinway artist.
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#1967472 - 10/01/12 06:28 PM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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The incident in question took place over 30 years ago. The piano world was a different place then.


Edited by BoseEric (10/01/12 08:10 PM)
Edit Reason: Rich told me I was being mean...
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#1968032 - 10/02/12 11:21 PM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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It's tough enough being a musician. Strong arm bully tactics are not a help.

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#1968061 - 10/03/12 12:32 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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It is tough being a musician, so musicians should recognize and appreciate what help they get.

If someone does a favor for me, I do not go around telling people that someone else is better that that person, because I would not like it if I did a favor for someone and that person ended up saying that someone who has done nothing for that person is better than me.
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#1968110 - 10/03/12 05:53 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: BDB]
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It is tough being a musician, so musicians should recognize and appreciate what help they get.

If someone does a favor for me, I do not go around telling people that someone else is better that that person, because I would not like it if I did a favor for someone and that person ended up saying that someone who has done nothing for that person is better than me.


This is an honest question BDB. What favor are you referring to?
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#1968113 - 10/03/12 06:31 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: BoseEric]
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Originally Posted By: BoseEric


The incident in question took place over 30 years ago. The piano world was a different place then.


Don't be so sure - I was shocked when a manufacturer's representative recently contacted me demanding that I remove any comments on his pianos from Piano World which were not complimentary. Interesting way of doing business. But I'm certain that I'll never again recommend friends, students or relatives consider that brand again.
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#1968116 - 10/03/12 06:58 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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So, BDB, what actually happened, in detail, since you appear to know
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#1968149 - 10/03/12 09:17 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: backto_study_piano]
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Originally Posted By: backto_study_piano
Originally Posted By: BoseEric


The incident in question took place over 30 years ago. The piano world was a different place then.


Don't be so sure - I was shocked when a manufacturer's representative recently contacted me demanding that I remove any comments on his pianos from Piano World which were not complimentary. Interesting way of doing business. But I'm certain that I'll never again recommend friends, students or relatives consider that brand again.


Really? That surprises me because I really vented heavily about the same manufacturer not too long ago and I didn't receive any kind of demand.

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#1968151 - 10/03/12 09:34 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: backto_study_piano]
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Originally Posted By: backto_study_piano
Originally Posted By: BoseEric


The incident in question took place over 30 years ago. The piano world was a different place then.


Don't be so sure - I was shocked when a manufacturer's representative recently contacted me demanding that I remove any comments on his pianos from Piano World which were not complimentary. Interesting way of doing business. But I'm certain that I'll never again recommend friends, students or relatives consider that brand again.


Let me understand this clearly. You are talking about a dealer, not the main company itself. Right?

Were you threatened with legal action? You are certainly under no obligation to accede to a dealer's wishes that you bowdlerize or edit your posts here.
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#1968173 - 10/03/12 10:10 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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Nope - the company representative in this country. Not legal action - but a "demand". So any mention of that company or it's products, whether complimentary or not have been deleted.
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#1968189 - 10/03/12 11:00 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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The representative can make such a "demand" if they wish, but you are not obligated to comply. Your opinion is your opinion, and as long as you are not engaging in libelous behavior, I cannot see how a company can force anyone to change what they write. I seem to have missed something in your earlier thread.
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#1968190 - 10/03/12 11:01 AM Re: Garrick Ohlsson on pianos [Re: Rich Galassini]
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backto study piano,
Which company is that? (Please PM me if you prefer not to divulge it on this forum).
I have my suspicions, but I might be barking up the wrong tree, or trodding on the wrong lump of sh*t (OK, I made the latter up....).
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