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#1969242 - 10/05/12 08:16 PM Re: Kawai CA95 has arrived [Re: McBuster]
rimorob Offline
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Registered: 01/26/12
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Any luck?


Originally Posted By: McBuster
I will provide some insight later tonight for you.


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#1969257 - 10/05/12 09:20 PM Re: Kawai CA95 has arrived [Re: pv88]
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I've never played a Kawai digital piano. Since some of you guys have, what are they like? How do they compare to Roland and Yamaha?
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#1969638 - 10/07/12 12:18 AM Re: Kawai CA95 has arrived [Re: rimorob]
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Originally Posted By: rimorob
To expand on @bennevis' excellent suggestion of testing key resistance with a stack of coins, is there a CA95/CA65 owner here who also has an acoustic (or even just the CA*5) who could do this? E.g., place quarters at the very end of a white key until the key tips.


Finally

Yes ...

On Middle C, nine quarters will just move the key downward a hair. Add a nickel, and it goes just a bit further. Another nickel and it descends.

That is my $2.35 worth ...
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#1969652 - 10/07/12 01:11 AM Re: Kawai CA95 has arrived [Re: pv88]
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Thanks, that the first part of the information. The next would be to see what is the momentum to be transfered by the fingers to get a ton. No idea how to manage to protect the keys from damage, but the test could be to drop the nickel from 1 cm to see what happens. At this point the mass of the hammer to be released could be better fixed. Nevertheless I don't like ask anyone to do this test, because it will become more and more complicated to characterize the action.

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#1969789 - 10/07/12 11:21 AM Re: Kawai CA95 has arrived [Re: pv88]
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56.03 grams... That's nice Jon. My Steinway "A" which has an action made out of butter is 54 grams that I weighed using my weight set. It plays so nicely. Right there as compared to a Faz.
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#1970106 - 10/08/12 12:07 AM Re: Kawai CA95 has arrived [Re: pv88]
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I went back and weighed the coins. 60.1 grams moved the key to the LetOff point.
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#1970123 - 10/08/12 01:27 AM Re: Kawai CA95 has arrived [Re: pv88]
Pelota Offline
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Registered: 03/15/12
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Oook, so that means that HwyStar's Steinway A has a lighter action than the CA*5?

That's good news for me.

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#1970164 - 10/08/12 04:50 AM Re: Kawai CA95 has arrived [Re: pv88]
UK Paul UK Offline
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I remember a thread with a lady not liking the ca65 action and wanting a ca63, pretty much slating the ca65(therefore same action on ca95) ... as completely different to the grand piano she will be doing her grade 8 on... i would compare the ca95 action to a steinway i have played... whereas a bechstein grand i used to do gradings on was incredibly heavy and difficult. I prefer the weight of the ca95 to anything i have owned. Best dp action by far. Similar to all my acoustics but more refined and personnaly i feel its capable of being with me through to the top grades. (Decided to go back to a fine teacher to get some structure with my kwarnibg as a mature student...)
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#1970165 - 10/08/12 04:52 AM Re: Kawai CA95 has arrived [Re: pv88]
UK Paul UK Offline
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By kwarnibg i mean learning.... note to predictive text , kwarnibg isnt even a word!
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#1970181 - 10/08/12 06:32 AM Re: Kawai CA95 has arrived [Re: UK Paul UK]
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@Paul,

If you happen to like the CA95 as I do, then there is no doubt you would probably like the Roland V-Piano as well, as it is still my favored digital above the rest. Nothing can match it when it comes to handling the dynamic range in one's playing, along with the incredible sustain and harmonic resonance.

I am fortunate enough to now own both of them...

The CA95 has better piano sounds, overall.

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#1970194 - 10/08/12 07:00 AM Re: Kawai CA95 has arrived [Re: pv88]
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haha, kwarnibg! grin

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#1970210 - 10/08/12 08:27 AM Re: Kawai CA95 has arrived [Re: pv88]
UK Paul UK Offline
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@pv 88. Yes mate, seems you do have a lovely pair to play with. I will look forward to trying out a v piano sometime... cost wise I think the ca95 was a good bet for me as v piano and clp480 are quite a bit more... lucky for me I am happy with the pedals, lucky for you there's. A v piano too... my other dp is now a toy for my 3 year old... she has my love if all things piano sohopefully she will embrace it long term.
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#1974235 - 10/16/12 07:22 PM Re: Kawai CA95 has arrived [Re: pv88]
rimorob Offline
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Registered: 01/26/12
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McBuster, Hwystar - thanks for the measurements!

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