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#1970579 - 10/08/12 11:49 PM Is this an original Steinway?
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I'm about to buy this Steinway, but I haven't found anything about this model on the Web. Did you recommend me it?










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#1970675 - 10/09/12 06:57 AM Re: Is this an original Steinway? [Re: cyberchopin]
Ed Foote Offline
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Registered: 05/03/03
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Greetings,
It looks like the tuning pins have been driven in till the coils touch. Bad sign. It also looks like whoever
restrung it chewed the finish up around the bottom of the pins. Another bad sign.
Buying this without your own technician examining it first is a total roll of the dice.
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#1970692 - 10/09/12 08:50 AM Re: Is this an original Steinway? [Re: Ed Foote]
Maximillyan Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ed Foote
Greetings,
It looks like the tuning pins have been driven in till the coils touch. Bad sign.

Hi,Ed.
Are you think a pins very much to hammered in till the coils touch?

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#1970696 - 10/09/12 08:55 AM Re: Is this an original Steinway? [Re: cyberchopin]
Maximillyan Offline
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What is numeral 17, 17 1/2, 16 ? (on iron plate)

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#1970715 - 10/09/12 09:59 AM Re: Is this an original Steinway? [Re: Maximillyan]
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Max,

Those numbers represent the music wire sizes.

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#1971061 - 10/09/12 11:04 PM Re: Is this an original Steinway? [Re: Chris Storch]
Maximillyan Offline
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Originally Posted By: Chris Storch
Max,

Those numbers represent the music wire sizes.

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Thank you,Chris. I assumed that it is the U.S. mensur(sizes) wire

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#1971106 - 10/10/12 12:22 AM Re: Is this an original Steinway? [Re: cyberchopin]
Dave B Offline
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Registered: 08/01/11
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Loc: Philadelphia area
It looks to be a Steinway built in Hamburg. I'm not familiar with the Model "Z" and the Hamburg web site is in German. Steinway NY list 21 different vertical models in their general stringing information tables. I wonder how many Steinway Hamburg adds to the list?
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#1971237 - 10/10/12 10:10 AM Re: Is this an original Steinway? [Re: cyberchopin]
Rasmus Offline
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Registered: 11/15/10
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Loc: Aarhus, Denmark
The Steinway Z i quite normal here in Europe. It's the smallest upright they've made, as far as I know. They can be very hard to tune in the treble due to a crazy bend of the strings over the felt just beneath the tuning pins. That problem will only increase if the tuning pins have been driven too far in.
Otherwise it's a nice piano.
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