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#1972113 - 10/12/12 12:03 AM Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson?
JazzPianoEducator Offline
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Hello,

I am considering having someone completely rebuild a Steinway L for me in Denver CO. I am speaking with a gentleman named Michael Jackson (not 'Thriller' Michael Jackson:)) who really impressed me of his knowledge and comes with some good recommendations. I figured I'd ask on the forum to see if anyone else had worked with him or was familiar with his work. This is a huge purchase and so I want to make sure I am making the right decision.

Thanks in advance for any guidance you have!

Best,

JPE
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#1972359 - 10/12/12 03:24 PM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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Yes, I know him. When I spoke with him he told me to "Beat It", because "Billie Jean was not his lover" and he needed to go speak with the "Man in the Mirror" about what a "Thriller" it would be to rebuild your piano. Then he moonwalked off whispering something about it being "Human Nature" to want the best work for the least money possible. grin


Edited by CC2 and Chopin lover (10/12/12 03:26 PM)
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#1972365 - 10/12/12 03:35 PM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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Not that your answer is 'Bad', but I'm guessing you are not familiar with the tech but instead you are familiar with the pop star. For this thread however, 'I Wanna Be Starting Something' that discusses the tech:)
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#1972370 - 10/12/12 03:51 PM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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I tried googling his name and location and came up with nothing.

Maybe try the local PTG chapter?
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#1972597 - 10/13/12 03:52 AM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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'Don't know him, but I think he left a white glove here last time. wink
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#1972694 - 10/13/12 09:41 AM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
Jerry Groot RPT Offline
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I think he's on the moon......................... walking...................
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#1972722 - 10/13/12 10:50 AM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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He tuned Neil Armstrongs' piano and had to endure a dozen or so really bad moonwalking jokes....each time when nobody laughed, Neil would look down and say.."...well, I guess you had to have been there".

If you can't find the tech on the internet, that says a little something right off the bat.
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#1972726 - 10/13/12 11:02 AM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
Jerry Groot RPT Offline
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Yeah, you could say that is a "strike" against him. smile
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#1972727 - 10/13/12 11:03 AM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: Emmery]
Zeno Wood Offline
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C'mon, this isn't too hard. Google gave a few hits, including this one, where he's mentioned as having been someone's mentor: http://cucamongamusic.com/about.html

Lots of people don't have websites and have a low internet profile, especially piano technicians. It's not a bad thing, just chalk it up to that old-world craft mentality.
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#1972732 - 10/13/12 11:29 AM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
Jerry Groot RPT Offline
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Well then, now you're getting us all "keyed up." wink
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#1972737 - 10/13/12 11:48 AM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
Grandpianoman Offline
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Heyyyy...there is more than one search engine out there.....;)

I tried that one named after a cherry....came up with this:

http://www.manta.com/c/mm78g7m/jackson-piano-service

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#1972971 - 10/13/12 11:53 PM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
rxd Offline
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There was an excellent technician called Michael Jackson worked for a major US dealership some 15 years ago.

Yes, he did endure all the corny remarks, especially when he was paged in the store.

It is not an uncommon name and I have lost touch with him now but it is conceivable he moved to Colorado.

There are still very many fine technicians, some of the best, who choose to have no web presence whatsoever. They are usually very well established independents with more work than they need or else they work for a company or school and find no use for it as an individual.
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#1973723 - 10/15/12 06:26 PM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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Thanks everyone for your feed back--both comical and helpful. I had already found the details from Google pasted above but was just asking here if anyone had any personal experience with him.

I have since received several great recommendations for him so I feel I've done the all the homework I can and think he is going to be a great re-builder to work with. If that is not the case I will let you know but thanks again for listening...

Best,

JPE
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#1973727 - 10/15/12 06:40 PM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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I'm sure you'll enjoy the rebuild. Keep an eye out for a missing glove.

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#1973741 - 10/15/12 07:12 PM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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ever vigilant...
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#1973850 - 10/15/12 11:14 PM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: rxd]
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Originally Posted By: rxd
There was an excellent technician called Michael Jackson worked for a major US dealership some 15 years ago.

Yes, he did endure all the corny remarks, especially when he was paged in the store.

It is not an uncommon name and I have lost touch with him now but it is conceivable he moved to Colorado.

There are still very many fine technicians, some of the best, who choose to have no web presence whatsoever. They are usually very well established independents with more work than they need or else they work for a company or school and find no use for it as an individual.


Presuming you mean who I think, he was a Steinway tech here in SoCal a few years back but I too am unsure of his current whereabouts.
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#1973858 - 10/15/12 11:38 PM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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That's probably him--he is from LA area
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#1973886 - 10/16/12 01:23 AM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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I've heard of the guy and know at least two piano teachers who used to hire him.
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#1974026 - 10/16/12 11:19 AM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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Thank you AZNpiano, good to know people are using him!
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#1974396 - 10/17/12 04:16 AM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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The Michael I knew was head tech at the Steinway dealership on Pico in LA around the turn of the century and previous to that with Sherman Clay on Wiltshire.

He is, among other things a phenomenal voicer and a helluva character. You're in safe hands with him.

If, indeed, he is one and the same, let me know. I'd like to establish contact again.
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#1974698 - 10/17/12 04:36 PM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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rxd - i will certainly let you know!
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#2175100 - 11/01/13 12:20 AM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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I had the good fortune of meeting Michael Jackson at a party at the Denver Steinway dealer.

He learned me a few things about S&S pianos. Maybe this is obvious to some, but new to me.
- plates (we were looking at a B), have recently moved to mimic the Hamburg design. Some change in the scale probably came with this (not sure)
- rims have moved to mimic the Hamburg laminate stack. There is a different kind layer of wood between the inner rim and outer rims.
- under-piano wood beams look like the Hamburg beams now.
- very interesting to me: I had been to this dealer before and feeling let down about the weak sound and feel of the "money octave" or the "killer octave" of the new S&S grands. He explained that as-received S&S hammers needed to be shaped/trimmed to achieve even power across the scale. (so it it isn't just a matter of playing it in, lacquer, acetone-disolved key tops, etc). He showed me examples of his work, and the upper octaves were very much improved in this respect.
- his opinion was that S&S of today was better than it has ever been.

In his general news, he indeed moved from LA. He thought he would have an easier time getting established in the Denver area and at the local Steinway dealer; however, this dealer already had their people there, so only recently (after some years) has he been pulled in by some staff at the shop that understand his talent. It was pretty clear, unfortunately, that S&S dealer top management at this party had 'mixed' dedication to optimizing tone and regulation of S&S pianos that they sold. Michael and I explained to this S&S dealer top management that this status quo just will not do. Response back was that S&S pianos being received from the factory these days were very good.

Anyhow Michael Jackson's business contact info is:
jacksonpianoservice@gmail.com
719 221 5763

Best wishes-


Edited by phacke (11/01/13 02:25 AM)
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#2175120 - 11/01/13 01:52 AM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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I had the distinct pleasure of spending several hours visiting with Michael at Steinway's Seminar at Oberlin Conservatory this past summer. He's tuned for Danny Devito, Paul Allen, and Kevin Costner among others. He looks like he stepped off of an old western movie set with his full cowboy regalia, and he rides a Harley and hunts buffalo with a black powder rifle. His grandfather got him into the business when he was still a youngster, so he's very experienced.

He's the real deal. I think you should count yourself lucky to have him as your technician!thumb You can't miss him - he's in the back row with the cowboy hat! He's right behind Zeno. I ended up right in the middle! Fantastic seminar, by the way.
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#2175696 - 11/02/13 12:46 AM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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How bad would that suck, to have a name" Michael Jackson"? Everyone and their dog knows you aren't THE Michael Jackson, but they will still have to make a stupid comment
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#2195588 - 12/10/13 02:57 PM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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so, JPE, are you having a piano refurbished by MJ? i too, am curious about his qualifications. When will it be done? Any feedback since the last thread?

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#2196758 - 12/12/13 10:51 PM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: Gary Fowler]
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Originally Posted By: Gary Fowler
How bad would that suck, to have a name" Michael Jackson"? Everyone and their dog knows you aren't THE Michael Jackson, but they will still have to make a stupid comment


He is very good-natured about it and sees it as an advantage. Heck, nobody forgets his name! That's worth gold when you are in business!
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#2197756 - 12/14/13 10:28 PM Re: Anyone familiar with piano tech named Michael Jackson? [Re: JazzPianoEducator]
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rysowers,
I'm sure Michael Jackson(the piano tuner) has gotten used to it and handles things gracesfully.
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