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#1973611 - 10/15/12 01:54 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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So I placed my order for the VV. I'm going to decide on color down the road but I'm leaning toward sparkle black, burgundy or root beer. I opted for the 64, which they feel is their best sounding unit. I added active stereo but not midi.

They were great going through many of the technical details and talked to me extensively about how I wanted my VV voiced.

It will take a few months to build and deliver, but I'll post updates as I get them.
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#1973612 - 10/15/12 01:59 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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New samples at Nord, sort of related to this topic: http://www.nordkeyboards.com/main.asp?tm=Home

The sample sounds pretty good to my ears.

Congrats on placing the order Hideki!


Edited by HwyStar (10/15/12 02:00 PM)

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#1973617 - 10/15/12 02:16 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: HwyStar]
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Originally Posted By: HwyStar
New samples at Nord, sort of related to this topic: http://www.nordkeyboards.com/main.asp?tm=Home

The sample sounds pretty good to my ears.

Congrats on placing the order Hideki!


Thanks! Nords always sound great when I hear them on stage. I'm just fortunate to be able to buy an EP without many practical considerations in mind. I almost bit on the vintage rebuilt Rhodes, but I think the VV will be better for my needs in the long run.


Edited by Hideki Matsui (10/15/12 02:16 PM)
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#1973649 - 10/15/12 03:30 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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The new Nord Pianet sample would appear to be compatible with Nord Piano 2 - it specifically states as much and thereby strongly implies it would not be compatible with the original Nord Piano. In which case I would be disappointed, and angry!
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#1973658 - 10/15/12 03:46 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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It is a single-velocity .nsmp "sample library" sample, not a multi-velocity .npno "piano library" sample. That means it only works in the keyboards that have a non-piano sample section, i.e. the ones they listed. The NP2 added the sample library compatibility that the original NP did not have. (That's the main difference between the two boards.)

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#1973698 - 10/15/12 05:24 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Wow, finally a Pianet sound from Nord!
I wonder how it will compare to the community offerings?

Unfortunately, as Scott notes, it's only a single velocity sample, so may lack the 'bark' when notes are struck with force. (Hmm.. is it still called 'bark' on a Pianet?)

Thanks for the heads up HwyStar, and apologies to Hideki for the off-topic!

Cheers,
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#1973702 - 10/15/12 05:27 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Wow, finally a Pianet sound from Nord!
I wonder how it will compare to the community offerings?

Unfortunately, as Scott notes, it's only a single velocity sample, so may lack the 'bark' when notes are struck with force. (Hmm.. is it still called 'bark' on a Pianet?)

Thanks for the heads up HwyStar, and apologies to Hideki for the off-topic!

Cheers,
James
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No problem.... But it's going to be nice not to have to think about things like samples and velocity layers.
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#1973818 - 10/15/12 09:52 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Vectistim]
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Originally Posted By: Vectistim
Originally Posted By: anotherscott

Originally Posted By: Vectistim

3) 'Sampled from original vintage instruments' - The clavichord sounds I hear on digital pianos sound nothing like they were sampled from original vintage instruments

When you see "clav" they usually mean clavinet, not clavichord.


Thank you, that explains a lot, I've never heard of a clavinet. I'd just assumed that these were all really abysmal interpretations of a clavichord!


LOL!!!
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#1974113 - 10/16/12 02:36 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Oh, the color quandry. Sparkle red does look pretty damn sexy....


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#1974186 - 10/16/12 05:31 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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That's beautiful!

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#1974187 - 10/16/12 05:33 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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I'd still chose the burgundy smile .

Can I ask why no MIDI? I would have never thought of excluding that, except if the price really crept upwards with the option. I'm sure you are a much better player than me, but I would depend on editing out my mistakes in order to allow a decent recording that doesn't take thousands of takes to get right smile

Rafa.
Edit: I mean, sparkled burgundy, for sure!


Edited by RafaPolit (10/16/12 05:34 PM)
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#1974200 - 10/16/12 05:56 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: RafaPolit]
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Originally Posted By: RafaPolit
I'd still chose the burgundy smile .

Can I ask why no MIDI? I would have never thought of excluding that, except if the price really crept upwards with the option. I'm sure you are a much better player than me, but I would depend on editing out my mistakes in order to allow a decent recording that doesn't take thousands of takes to get right smile

Rafa.
Edit: I mean, sparkled burgundy, for sure!


I considered it , but II really didn't want to add midi. Not because of the price, which is another $1500. I don't want anything potentially compromising the action. I wouldn't turn my Shigeru into a midi piano either. I'm very happy with a pure instrument. I plan on grabbing Roland's new weighted midi controller to pair with the Jupiter, but at home, I don't see it getting much use.
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#1977268 - 10/22/12 08:26 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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[deleted - sorry]


Edited by sullivang (10/22/12 10:13 PM)

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#1984707 - 11/09/12 04:24 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: sullivang]
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I think I'm set on this color, the Apple Red, which is darker than the Fire Red they normally use. It definitely has more black than the Fire Red. This isn't my lid, but a lid for one of their 44s. I have another 7-8 weeks for my 64.

They said they have 3 new product surprises that will be shown at NAMM. Clav? Wurlitzer?





Edited by Hideki Matsui (11/09/12 04:30 PM)
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#1984721 - 11/09/12 05:34 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Congrats! That color looks fantastic!

What is not so great, is that they are showing 3 product surprises which you will want (hopefully not *over* your current order! smile )

Rafa.
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#1984852 - 11/10/12 12:52 AM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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That is a sharp looking color.

FWIW, QRS PNOScan can be added to virtually any piano without ever touching or affecting the action. It's also removable and can be easily installed in your home. Some systems are invasive and most other systems do affect the touch.
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#1985723 - 11/12/12 01:12 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: RafaPolit]
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Originally Posted By: RafaPolit
Congrats! That color looks fantastic!

What is not so great, is that they are showing 3 product surprises which you will want (hopefully not *over* your current order! smile )

Rafa.


I'm very happy with the way Apple Red looks. It sits in between the Fire Red and Root Beer, which is what I was looking for.

They emailed me to let me know things are a little ahead of schedule, which is great. I plan on getting over to NAMM to check out their new products. I imagine I will leave there on at least one wait list. I'd definitely get a wurly. Not so interested in a clav.
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#1986217 - 11/13/12 02:53 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Looks like my order is shipping in 2 weeks!

They hinted another tine based product as part of the trio of NAMM surprises... I'm guessing an 88.


Edited by Hideki Matsui (11/13/12 03:19 PM)
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#1989658 - 11/22/12 03:09 AM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Had the voicing call with the tech today. Much like guitars, each one comes out sounding a little different, and it seems mine is a bit warmer out of the box, which is what I wanted. Shipping on Friday or Monday. Can't wait for this one.
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#1989807 - 11/22/12 01:57 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Hideki, with all the anticipation you have conveyed to us, you are not allowed to just show pictures of your EP! Once you have it with you, you are required pictures+audio or directly a video of you playing the thing! Its the least you could do to all of us eagerly waiting for you to enjoy the EP smile

Congrats! Sounds great, and glad you have the warmer voice you wanted instead of needing a re-vocing!(was that even possible or were you stuck with whatever the default sound was?)

Rafa.
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#1989889 - 11/22/12 06:53 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: RafaPolit]
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Originally Posted By: RafaPolit
Hideki, with all the anticipation you have conveyed to us, you are not allowed to just show pictures of your EP! Once you have it with you, you are required pictures+audio or directly a video of you playing the thing! Its the least you could do to all of us eagerly waiting for you to enjoy the EP smile

Congrats! Sounds great, and glad you have the warmer voice you wanted instead of needing a re-vocing!(was that even possible or were you stuck with whatever the default sound was?)

Rafa.


I will definitely take the time to do that with this one. I recently picked up an Apogee Quartet and a decent mic, so I will get out some mic v. line recordings. I love the fact they added an effects loop on the Vintage Vibe. It should take nice l to some of my guitar pedals.
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#1996062 - 12/07/12 04:38 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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They just sent over a quick shot they took while prepping it for shipping on Monday...



Edited by Hideki Matsui (12/07/12 04:40 PM)
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#1996064 - 12/07/12 04:43 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Retro bling! cool
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#1996089 - 12/07/12 05:40 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Beautiful.
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#1996132 - 12/07/12 07:20 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Kawai James]
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Nice! Band in a Box!

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#1996176 - 12/07/12 10:30 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Kawai James]
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Beautiful.


Thanks KJ... Not quite your shade of red, but my first dip into red waters. I can't wait to play it.
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#2002728 - 12/21/12 03:12 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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EP has been here for a few days and I have my setup routed. It sounds fantastic. On a side note...those looking for external effects should check out some of the Strymon gear that runs stereo and takes line in. Off to vactaion but will post some clips when I get back...



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#2002739 - 12/21/12 03:40 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Sparkletop, good! Tolex, bad!

That's magnificent. smile

And I love the way it reflects your Shigeru. cool
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#2002742 - 12/21/12 03:46 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Gosh, that looks nice.
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#2002771 - 12/21/12 04:59 PM Re: Best EP. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Wow, what a fantastic setup! I love seeing the reflection of the Shigeru too. wink

Can you talk us through the different effect boxes you're using there? How they influence the sound etc.

Cheers,
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