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#1972108 - 10/11/12 11:49 PM Thanksgiving and Christmas fees
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Could anyone please tell me what the going rate is for an experienced pianist to play for a 6 hour gig in South Florida upscale hotel restaurant during Thanksgiving and Christmas? Thank you.
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#1972157 - 10/12/12 01:37 AM Re: Thanksgiving and Christmas fees [Re: Feminicricket]
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The "going rate" should be what the market can bear. I don't think that there is any single "going rate." What does an "experienced pianist" usually charge for his/her gigs?

Should there be a different rate for Thanksgiving and Christmas compared to non-holiday times? That too, is probably a personal choice.

A six-hour gig seems pretty demanding. How well does one play - even with breaks - during a six-hour stint?

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#1972315 - 10/12/12 01:37 PM Re: Thanksgiving and Christmas fees [Re: Feminicricket]
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I can't open the other thread with the same title as this one, although it appears - as of this posting - that 59 others have read it.
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#1972374 - 10/12/12 04:04 PM Re: Thanksgiving and Christmas fees [Re: Feminicricket]
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I'd probably ask somewhere between $300-500. And I'd also put together a contract that spelled out the breaks. Something like 4 ten-minute breaks and a 25 minute break in the middle for lunch/dinner.
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#1972494 - 10/12/12 10:01 PM Re: Thanksgiving and Christmas fees [Re: Kreisler]
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Thank you very much.Your reply is very helpful. I believe that is the rate that pianists should charge for holidays too.
I was trying to get an idea so that I don`t overcharge or undercharge.
P.S. There is two of the same threads because one just does not open.
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#1972518 - 10/12/12 11:06 PM Re: Thanksgiving and Christmas fees [Re: BruceD]
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Originally Posted By: BruceD
I can't open the other thread with the same title as this one, although it appears - as of this posting - that 59 others have read it.

You can open it by clicking on the last post rather than on the thread title.

It's a trick that works for any thread that fails to open the usual way.

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#1972538 - 10/12/12 11:52 PM Re: Thanksgiving and Christmas fees [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: BruceD
I can't open the other thread with the same title as this one, although it appears - as of this posting - that 59 others have read it.

You can open it by clicking on the last post rather than on the thread title.

It's a trick that works for any thread that fails to open the usual way.


Thanks, Mark.

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#1972669 - 10/13/12 08:31 AM Re: Thanksgiving and Christmas fees [Re: Feminicricket]
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I get $50 to $75 an hour for about two hours of playing, but that is not for working on the holiday itself. A lot of people pay me in gift cards and/or cash. Maybe you should ask for $300 in cash for 6 hours work plus the same amount paid in-kind, with a $300 voucher covering dinner for two at their upscale restaurant. They might find that deal a lot easier to accept than getting approval for $600 cash up front.

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#1972686 - 10/13/12 09:19 AM Re: Thanksgiving and Christmas fees [Re: Feminicricket]
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In situations like this there's a low figure and a high figure. Can you get more work out of them in the future? Is the piano in good condition or do you have to bring your own set up? (I charge for bringing my own equipment.)

I would think a low price would be $40 per hour and a high price around $75. I know guys who would charge $100 or more per hour but since the work situation isn't what it used to be, everyone is settling for less.

I find it easier to deal with people by stating what I ask per hour with a minimum of three hours. (For me a three hour job is the perfect length, a six hour job is too much like work.)
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#1972751 - 10/13/12 12:33 PM Re: Thanksgiving and Christmas fees [Re: Dave Horne]
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Obviously the figures I suggested (on the other thread) were way too low. But even though they were wrong grin I'll say why I would have thought the figures everyone else is giving are too high.

I have trouble seeing how those figures are tenable for the restaurant, in terms of the monetary value that the music will have for them -- i.e. looking at how much business it will give them, or how much business they would lose if they don't have the music.

Evidently I'm misjudging that -- and for the sake of music and musicians, I'm glad, but it's hard for me to see it. Maybe the thing is that it goes beyond how I was looking at it, like that it aids the general standing of the restaurant and hotel in a needed way.

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#1972759 - 10/13/12 12:59 PM Re: Thanksgiving and Christmas fees [Re: Feminicricket]
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Wow, six hours is a long time. I'd definitely be careful about what goes into your contract -- you're going to want some breaks to rest and eat.

My restaurant gigs are usually 4 hours over brunch (10 a.m. - 2 p.m.). I play three 45-min sets with 15 minute breaks, and my last set is an hour. For this sort of thing, I charge $100 for the first hour (basically $100 for showing up -- if the gig is shorter than an hour, I'll still ask for $100), and then $50 additional hour. So $250 for 4 hours.

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#1972841 - 10/13/12 04:54 PM Re: Thanksgiving and Christmas fees [Re: Feminicricket]
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Thank you everyone. Yes, six hours and more is long. 3 hour gigs are the best. I might be playing more than 6 hours but I have an idea what to charge. The sad part is that the plumber I hired charges $95 an hour but we pianists have to be careful to charge when we have practiced all our lives and sacrificed so much.I understand it is the economy that makes us lower our prices.......but we must not let those who can afford to take advantage of us either. I still paid my plumber over $400 for his labor. Pianists are a necessity too. We add to the ambiance!


Edited by Feminicricket (10/13/12 05:33 PM)
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