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willyboy88 #1975384 10/18/12 07:34 PM
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Quite refulgent, in a volant sort of way.

Note to self: somehow work the line "my squinting tone-full ears" into next DPBSD review.

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"Refulgent"? "Volant"? ....seriously?

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Yeah, oh my... celestial sound excellence... colossal harmonic sound... he really didn't like it that much huh? smile LOL! Weird review. We have a sports commentator that talks like that over here, quite annoying.

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Originally Posted by RafaPolit
Yeah, oh my... celestial sound excellence... colossal harmonic sound... he really didn't like it that much huh? smile LOL! Weird review. We have a sports commentator that talks like that over here, quite annoying.


Stuart Hall on BBC Radio Five Live is a broadcasting legend in the UK.



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I'm not sure, but I think he likes it.


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Stuart Hall on BBC Radio Five Live is a broadcasting legend in the UK.

Yeah... not on the same league though, the guy in the video you embedded would be Shakespeare next to the one I'm talking about smile . LOL!

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Spoke to MF when ordering the P105 tonight; last week GC had $150 off of $799 + and they said I could have the 350 for $679 tonight. Gonna wait though bit.

I think the 850 looks fantastic, but the output of the 350 would be sufficient for me


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I'm in Barcelona now, and spied a PX-150 in the music store around the corner from the hotel ... gonna go try it today sometime, so I can compare to my 330

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My PX-350 is on order - unfortunately delivery has been put back a tad, estimated Oct 25 now.

In the meantime, here it is in a band setting - Steve LeBlanc hitting it out of the park with Jason Bonham's Led Zeppelin Experience. The EP is on a Receptor but the piano solo starting about 3.00 is the Casio's internal piano.



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Thanks for the clip Aidan...I need to dig out my copy of 'Houses of the Holy'! wink

By the way, how do you know the keyboard is a Casio (PX-350), and that a Receptor is being used for the EP (with Leslie)? I guess the Nord on top is for organ? wink

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James, Steve shared the tech info when posting it on the Keyboard Magazine forum.


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Ah, I see, thanks.

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I just got my Casio Privia PX 350, without testing cos i read a lot of reviews.

But i'm quite disappointed. I have to say it sounds a little weird... I'm not sure if it's a problem with speakers, but all the piano voices have this very very muffled sound.

I have the SP 33 pedal unit and the CS-67P special stand. The sustain pedal is a little wonky, the notes don't hold as long as i thought it would. sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't.

From my experience with the Korg SP 250, and the Yamaha P 155, when I hold on to the sustain pedal and press a note with the "piano layered with strings" voice, the piano and strings volume should fade off at roughly the same time, with my foot still on the pedal.

However with the PX 350, the strings voice continues to maintain the same volume and goes on indefinitely as long as my foot is on the pedal. So the piano sounds fine, but there's a whole mass of strings overlapping one another when ever i play a song with the layered voice.

Is this how the PX 350 supposed to sound and work? Or did i get a faulty set?

Would appreciate some help here.

Thanks!

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When can I buy PX-350 (or a Kawai) 15/16 version?

When you guys are going to produce digital pianos with 7/8 and 15/16 size keys?
It is mind boggling that nobody does that.
Those standards are well established for years now.
For expensive acoustic pianos there are replaceable keyboards.
But no cheap digital pianos??? Or at least 88-key midi controllers?

The market for them would be huge. They are desperately needed for children and women to reach octaves without pain and for men with smaller hands to reach 10ths comfortably, especially that C#-F.
I would not be surprised if most preferred smaller keys.
We know from feedback about the acoustic piano keyboards of those sizes how easy it is to adapt to them.

And there is no technical difficulties involved: you can very simply make the keyboard with the same identical action, no need to hit real strings here.

And no risk involved either:
It would be practically the same cost to produce them.
And no R&D needed, just shrink the goddamn thing.
You can even leave the size of the whole piano/keyboard unchanged.
And you can start small and expand according to the demand.

There is a gold mine here waiting for a company which produces them first.

On another note: come on, anybody got PX-150 or PX-350 yet?
Where are your impressions, detailed feedback about the differences in the action and sound compared to 130/330?







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Originally Posted by Casio PX 350
with the PX 350, the strings voice continues to maintain the same volume and goes on indefinitely as long as my foot is on the pedal.

In my experience (and IMO, fortunately), that is the more common way it is done on most keyboards. It actually more accurately reflects real instrument behavior, since real strings do not "fade away" as piano notes do. And practically speaking, it is particularly desirable if you want the string effect to sustain until you specifically release it, which can be useful especially when you're using multiple keyboards.

It does mean you may need to be a little more cognizant of your sustain pedal techniques... if the strings are overwhelming the piano due to the infinite sustain, odds are good that you're being heavy-footed in your use of the sustain pedal in the first place.

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Originally Posted by SoftFloor
And no risk involved either:
It would be practically the same cost to produce them.
And no R&D needed, just shrink the goddamn thing.

Tooling up to produce a new set of keys could easily be a 6-figure investment. Would it generate more sales? I don't know... I've never heard anyone request this before. And young kids and small women have successfully learned to play on standard size pianos, probably for centuries.

Interestingly, for some reason, there does seem to be some variation on unweighted actions. I have a Yamaha S30 where the keys are just slightly narrower than normal, and an old Studiologic/Fatar where they are slightly wider.

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Originally Posted by Casio PX 350

From my experience with the Korg SP 250, and the Yamaha P 155, when I hold on to the sustain pedal and press a note with the "piano layered with strings" voice, the piano and strings volume should fade off at roughly the same time, with my foot still on the pedal.

However with the PX 350, the strings voice continues to maintain the same volume and goes on indefinitely as long as my foot is on the pedal. So the piano sounds fine, but there's a whole mass of strings overlapping one another when ever i play a song with the layered voice.


I auditioned a PX-350 on Wednesday and experienced this as well. Not having all the extra sound and pedaling editing options that a more expensive board might have leaves you without any real options to deal with it. I was really looking forward to this board, but this just might be a deal breaker for me, unfortunately.

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Given the price and weight bracket of this thing, I'm guessing that anyone who looks at the PX-350 as anything other than principally a digital piano, with a few "extras" of varying quantity thrown in for good measure, is going to be disappointed. You're also not going together the best out of it if you rely on its internal speakers for amplification.


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Originally Posted by Aidan
In the meantime, here it is in a band setting - Steve LeBlanc hitting it out of the park with Jason Bonham's Led Zeppelin Experience.
That is awesome. Thanks for sharing.


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