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#1977777 - 10/23/12 10:41 PM What's your favourite key? and why.....?
ju5t1n-h Offline
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Mine has to be C Sharp Minor....
this has to be because I love

Chopin - Nocturne op.72 no.2
Beethoven - Piano Sonata no.14 (moonlight)
Chopin - Valse op.64 no.2
Chopin - Fantasie-Impromptu op.66 no.4
Rachmaninoff Prelude Op. 3 No. 2


anyone else have a favourite key?


Edited by ju5t1n-h (10/23/12 10:44 PM)
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#1977786 - 10/23/12 11:17 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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Originally Posted By: ju5t1n-h
anyone else have a favourite key?


For what purpose? To listen to? C# minor's not bad.

To play? C. (I'm lazy.)
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#1977787 - 10/23/12 11:19 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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C# Minor club!

Why? Because Nocturne No 20 C# Minor that's why!

The scale feels good in my hand, two thumb-unders per octave.


Edited by OG Ryder (10/23/12 11:22 PM)
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#1977808 - 10/24/12 12:36 AM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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Some will complain that this thread needs to be posted on the ABF or PC forum.

But... I too have a favorite key, F major. I love to play in the key of F and it is my favorite singing key too.

Next is C major... I can play most anything I have ever heard in the key of C. I can play in G major pretty well too.

I'm learning to play more fluently in the sharps and flats. I too like C# or Db, which ever you prefer. I also like F# (Gb). Ab is not bad either.

I find it hard to play in E major or A major on the piano, but they are very popular keys on the guitar.

Don't know what I've done in the last several years of my life that is as fun as learning to play the piano. smile

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#1977835 - 10/24/12 02:58 AM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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E, Em, F, G, A, Bm, C, Dm.

On guitar thumb

Why? Too many reasons. BB King, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray, Mark Knopfler, Buddy Guy, ....


Edited by rlinkt (10/24/12 02:59 AM)

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#1977836 - 10/24/12 03:00 AM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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#1977843 - 10/24/12 03:36 AM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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C4. G3 is a close second.

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#1977946 - 10/24/12 10:00 AM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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Personally, I like any key based on sound if the texture and overall feel of the piece suits a piece. For example, B minor, C minor and D sharp minor I think to have the ability to portray a very dense dark feel to pieces better than other keys (examples being a section in JSB's Toccata in G major {a modulation}, Toccata in C minor, and Prelude and fugue in D sharp minor from Book 2 of WTC).

Other pieces, with different feels, have other keys more suited for them. I will describe one piece in detail, but without the bar numbers as I don't exactly remember them. Chopin's Ballade no.3, op. 47, is in A flat major. It seems like a quite "present" key, having an announcement type feel, especially the way it is written also, for the first theme. The work has many modulations, always accompanied by a change in feel. A flat Major is used in this piece in a lot of instances. The second theme, which is in F minor, but starts off in F major, seems more lighthearted (however, another work By JS.Bach, the italian concerto, has the first and third movements written in F major, has a grand feel to it). as it moves into the F minor passage, it becomes darker in feel, more passionate, etc. Later on, there is a C sharp minor section, written with an almost ominous feel, while then the next section goes through rapid key changes upwards to wards the finale section back to A flat major. could go on like this for a while, but I'll cut it short here. Mainly, however, the feel of the different keys is greatly influenced by how the piano is used, i,e, the writing.

Basically, depending on how the piece is structured and written, the key used most suits the mood, the writing being of course the most important factor in the effect of the sound. But for me, the easiest key for me to play in would be... C minor.


Edited by Rotom (10/24/12 10:04 AM)
Edit Reason: elaboration on Ballade 3

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#1978000 - 10/24/12 12:21 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: OG Ryder]
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Originally Posted By: OG Ryder
The scale feels good in my hand, two thumb-unders per octave.
? Like virtually every other key.

BTW, this thread belongs on the Pianist Corner not the Piano Forum. Of ocurse, until they revise the name of this forum to make it clear there is another forum about playing the piano new members will be rightly confused by the too general name for this forum.


Edited by pianoloverus (10/24/12 12:24 PM)

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#1978008 - 10/24/12 12:41 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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Bb major and you know you love it too. It's a very mellow key.

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#1978009 - 10/24/12 12:43 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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My favorite key is the one that gets me into my car after my last appointment of the day!! smile
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#1978025 - 10/24/12 01:17 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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I like these 4, on the bottom:



In all seriousness I like C# Minor. For example the Chopin Op. 64 #2 just fits under the hands perfectly. B Major is similar.

I disagree with Anne that C is easiest. It's not! My scales in C are the least fluid.


Edited by Thrill Science (10/24/12 01:18 PM)
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#1978066 - 10/24/12 02:52 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: OG Ryder]
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Originally Posted By: Annitenth
Originally Posted By: ju5t1n-h
anyone else have a favourite key?


For what purpose? To listen to? C# minor's not bad.

To play? C. (I'm lazy.)


Either, to play or listen

Originally Posted By: OG Ryder
C# Minor club!

Why? Because Nocturne No 20 C# Minor that's why!

The scale feels good in my hand, two thumb-unders per octave.



how could I forget that, thats one of my favourite pieces, i was just playing a little bit of that just a minute ago before my fingers gave up due to the difficulty
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#1978092 - 10/24/12 04:05 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Originally Posted By: OG Ryder
The scale feels good in my hand, two thumb-unders per octave.
? Like virtually every other key.


Rearranged for you:

The two thumb-unders of this scale feel good in my hand.
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#1978203 - 10/24/12 08:32 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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Bb maj. If I sit at the piano and improvise, it always ends up in Bb. Or if I want to try something by ear - it just happens in Bb (unless it's minor!!). It's also a very mild-mannered, honest key.

3 I dislike - C maj (no black notes for reference), and C# & F# maj - where there are more "black" notes than there are black notes available.
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#1978269 - 10/24/12 11:34 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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G. It lends itself well to the blues/gospel style I prefer. I also use seventh chords a lot for that style, and I just like how my thumb naturally goes up to the F# and back down to F when sliding into G7.
Same thing when going for D7 in that key.
Next favorite is C.
The guitarists at church also play along, and both those keys lend themselves well to the guitar players, regardless of skill level, to follow along easily. And the congregation is vocally comfortable and sing out well in that range.
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#1978629 - 10/25/12 07:15 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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I originally taught myself to play using a Hammond Piper organ book that showed the basic shords in most keys. I, like many ear players, started in C, however as I travelled backwards on the circle of fifths, it seemed that the sound got more warm and mellow. I've never been a fan of the sharps. Whenever I play with a band,(country), I generally use a transposer when playing electronic keyboards. Do I wish I had started with lessons and reading at a young age? YES. I learned while in college. Our study hall had a Steinway B. Spent a lot of time at midnight playing that piano. It didn't deserve a "green" piano player, but it helped me a great deal.
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#1978959 - 10/26/12 03:48 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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Em. I don't know why, but I noticed as someone who previously disliked piano music, and then started to learn piano, that the pieces I initially chose to learn were in E minor (Tiersen, Taize).

Can anyone point me to some, easy-ish, Bach or Chopin in Em?

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#1978978 - 10/26/12 04:20 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: spanishbuddha]
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I would say waltz in e minor by chopin, but thats definitely not for the feint hearted!
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#1978979 - 10/26/12 04:21 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: Thrill Science]
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Originally Posted By: Thrill Science
I like these 4, on the bottom:



In all seriousness I like C# Minor. For example the Chopin Op. 64 #2 just fits under the hands perfectly. B Major is similar.

I disagree with Anne that C is easiest. It's not! My scales in C are the least fluid.


what are the black coverings on your keys there?
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#1978983 - 10/26/12 04:28 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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Originally Posted By: ju5t1n-h
I
Originally Posted By: Thrill Science
I like these 4, on the bottom:

....

In all seriousness I like C# Minor. For example the Chopin Op. 64 #2 just fits under the hands perfectly. B Major is similar.

I disagree with Anne that C is easiest. It's not! My scales in C are the least fluid.


what are the black coverings on your keys there?

That's a Bosendorder 92-key piano. The keyboard is extended by four notes in the bass. Bosendorfer uses black keytops for the extended bass to help the pianist avoid getting disoriented.

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#1978991 - 10/26/12 04:37 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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My favorite key???

The key to my wife's heart!
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#1979173 - 10/27/12 03:51 AM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: AndyJ]
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Originally Posted By: AndyJ
Originally Posted By: ju5t1n-h
I
Originally Posted By: Thrill Science
I like these 4, on the bottom:

....

In all seriousness I like C# Minor. For example the Chopin Op. 64 #2 just fits under the hands perfectly. B Major is similar.

I disagree with Anne that C is easiest. It's not! My scales in C are the least fluid.


what are the black coverings on your keys there?

That's a Bosendorder 92-key piano. The keyboard is extended by four notes in the bass. Bosendorfer uses black keytops for the extended bass to help the pianist avoid getting disoriented.



thats pretty cool, i never even knew they did 92-key pianos... is there any pieces that use them?
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#1979226 - 10/27/12 09:33 AM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: Steve Cohen]
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Originally Posted By: Steve Cohen
My favorite key???

The key to my wife's heart!


I hope you show her this post.

Personally, i like to have at least 2 black keys.

That Boesendorfer is pretty cool.
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#1979264 - 10/27/12 12:06 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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I am surprised that the temperaments folks have not piped in on this topic. If the piano is tuned to equal temperament then the only difference in keys should be the pitch level.

I seem to prefer classical things in C# minor but some of them might have been written during the well-temperament era so one can only guess what they might sound like. Ed Foote's CDs give a strong clue.

For playing, I like the blues in a minor key but I often transpose to A minor. Rachmaninoff's prelude in C# minor is out of my reach but when transposed into A minor it is interesting and playable (with some simplifying modifications).
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#1979487 - 10/27/12 10:34 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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I don't have a preference in terms of the supposed "mood" keys have, the only difference is pitch.

That said, I like keys with an almost even number of black and whites, like F minor and C minor.

C major and A minor are my least favourite keys, due to the unnatural shapes it forces your hand into, same goes for keys that use all black notes.
An all white triad just doesn't fit my hand right, a triad with two whites and a black are perfect.

Foxes


Edited by Foxes (10/27/12 10:35 PM)

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#1979494 - 10/27/12 11:14 PM Re: What's your favourite key? and why.....? [Re: Thrill Science]
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Originally Posted By: Thrill Science
I disagree with Anne that C is easiest. It's not! My scales in C are the least fluid.

Maybe F or B flat are a little easier for fingering, but for getting the right accompaniment when playing by ear, nothing beats C.
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