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#1977891 - 10/24/12 07:49 AM Prokofiev 3rd piano concerto
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Did a very informal performance of this, mostly for some friends/teachers, yesterday. For some reasons, I'm not yet able to upload the greater part of the performance, but the whole first movement is here so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1PuohgjUKc
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#1977964 - 10/24/12 10:51 AM Re: Prokofiev 3rd piano concerto [Re: fnork]
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa stupid DVD, it doesn't manage to read the final part of the DVD, seems to be some silly error and I would need to install some sort of program to fix this .VOB file. meh.
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#1978078 - 10/24/12 03:17 PM Re: Prokofiev 3rd piano concerto [Re: fnork]
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fnork- I am nowhere near capable of playing a piece like the Prokofiev but I am curious about how the physical excitement of playing a piece like that might compare to other concerti even including some of the other big Romantic ones. Is it different from performing the concerti of Liszt, Rachmaninov, and Brahms for example?

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#1978082 - 10/24/12 03:36 PM Re: Prokofiev 3rd piano concerto [Re: fnork]
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let's start with saying that the physical excitement is huge! laugh in fact, there are certain passages in this piece that are written more or less with this very physical excitement in mind - Olli Mustonen said wisely in an interview about Prokofiev that it's all so very acrobatic and elegant. In certain cases, it means that Prokofiev even writes things in a way (ie having the hands cross, etc) that could be done in a more "practical" way (and in a few cases I've opted for more practical solutions), but in some cases there is a loss of excitement if you re-arrange things he wrote. Hope this makes sense. That's the first important thing. The second thing to consider is that the piano literally has pause for perhaps 12-20 bars per movement or so, the rest of the time you're busy trying to hit all of the notes at the right time. There are few moments to breathe and relax, and even in lyrical and slow passages there's always the issue of being together with the orchestra or 2nd piano - not always that easy, my pianist did a great job. Out of the other concerti you mentioned I've only played Rach 2. It's just a completely different piece of music, I guess, that's all. Prokofiev 3rd is just plain fun and a pure joy to play from the first to the very last bar. But Prok is probably more physically draining - I still felt tired two hours after this performance, the whole ending of the 3rd movement is such a knockout...
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#1978088 - 10/24/12 03:50 PM Re: Prokofiev 3rd piano concerto [Re: fnork]
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Originally Posted By: fnork
let's start with saying that the physical excitement is huge! laugh in fact, there are certain passages in this piece that are written more or less with this very physical excitement in mind - Olli Mustonen said wisely in an interview about Prokofiev that it's all so very acrobatic and elegant. In certain cases, it means that Prokofiev even writes things in a way (ie having the hands cross, etc) that could be done in a more "practical" way (and in a few cases I've opted for more practical solutions), but in some cases there is a loss of excitement if you re-arrange things he wrote. Hope this makes sense. That's the first important thing. The second thing to consider is that the piano literally has pause for perhaps 12-20 bars per movement or so, the rest of the time you're busy trying to hit all of the notes at the right time. There are few moments to breathe and relax, and even in lyrical and slow passages there's always the issue of being together with the orchestra or 2nd piano - not always that easy, my pianist did a great job. Out of the other concerti you mentioned I've only played Rach 2. It's just a completely different piece of music, I guess, that's all. Prokofiev 3rd is just plain fun and a pure joy to play from the first to the very last bar. But Prok is probably more physically draining - I still felt tired two hours after this performance, the whole ending of the 3rd movement is such a knockout...
Very interesting. I remember watching the ending of the third movement of some YouTube performance many times in a row because it is, as you say, such a knockout.

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#1978323 - 10/25/12 03:09 AM Re: Prokofiev 3rd piano concerto [Re: fnork]
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Extremely exciting! I don't think that I would ever be capable of pulling of the Rach 2 and then the Prok 3 and go on like this... Too much studying involved... :P

Your playing is very clean and almost metalic in a sense, which is pretty much what this concerto requires (imho of course), so... YAY! Very well done!

And very well done to your accompanist: He did a brilliant job as well!
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#1978701 - 10/25/12 11:20 PM Re: Prokofiev 3rd piano concerto [Re: fnork]
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fnork -

I appreciate the fact that you posted this - not just because you play the piece so well (which you do) - but also because I haven't heard (or seen the score) of the "two piano" version of the 1st movement of the Prokofiev 3rd since I accompanied three talented high school students who performed it in a concerto competition 35 years ago. Kudos to both you and your accompanist !! thumb
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#2001249 - 12/18/12 03:50 PM Re: Prokofiev 3rd piano concerto [Re: fnork]
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Here's the entire thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5B3e9uO3C-g#t=5283s

For some reason, I'm not able to edit the video, which is a 2-hour uncut concert. In any case, the link is where the Prokofiev concerto starts smile
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