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#1978158 - 10/24/12 06:08 PM Cheap Refurb Steinway? Is this fake or what's the deal?
infraxo Offline
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Registered: 08/24/12
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Just saw this ad on gumtree for a cheap refurb Steinway... I'm a bit of a newb but it sounds too good to be true. Anyone know what the deal is with this?

http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/reconditioned-steinway-upright-piano/111783340

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#1978160 - 10/24/12 06:25 PM Re: Cheap Refurb Steinway? Is this fake or what's the deal? [Re: infraxo]
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I do not think it is particularly cheap for an old Steinway F. It is hard to assess it from the blurry photos.
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#1978170 - 10/24/12 06:47 PM Re: Cheap Refurb Steinway? Is this fake or what's the deal? [Re: infraxo]
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The ad says "completely restored" which is about as fuzzy as one can get(although specific work done is listed later). Just using a phrase like that is, for me, a bad sign.

There is no date given for when the piano was originally built. I don't know if the work described can be done to a good level for the price being asked. It sounds like they may have just sprayed on some lacquer over the old finish. Whether this is at all acceptable other posters will probably know.


Edited by pianoloverus (10/24/12 06:48 PM)

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#1978177 - 10/24/12 07:10 PM Re: Cheap Refurb Steinway? Is this fake or what's the deal? [Re: BDB]
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Originally Posted By: BDB
I do not think it is particularly cheap for an old Steinway F. It is hard to assess it from the blurry photos.


Definitely not cheap, IMO. Yep, photo quality is horrible.

A shame the sostenuto was removed.
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#1978360 - 10/25/12 05:28 AM Re: Cheap Refurb Steinway? Is this fake or what's the deal? [Re: infraxo]
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Loc: London
Thanks guys.

I'm conscious that you're all not from the UK... so I wonder if you're not judging the price fairly for a UK Steinway.

The thing is I really want a well-priced used UK Steinway... if this isn't it then where can one get a reasonably priced one?

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#1978379 - 10/25/12 07:26 AM Re: Cheap Refurb Steinway? Is this fake or what's the deal? [Re: infraxo]
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Originally Posted By: infraxo
Thanks guys.

I'm conscious that you're all not from the UK... so I wonder if you're not judging the price fairly for a UK Steinway.

The thing is I really want a well-priced used UK Steinway... if this isn't it then where can one get a reasonably priced one?
I think you first have to find, by having any candidates inspected by s tech, what the quality and extent of the rebuilding work is. Only then can you know how "fair" the price is.


Edited by pianoloverus (10/25/12 07:27 AM)

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#1978380 - 10/25/12 07:27 AM Re: Cheap Refurb Steinway? Is this fake or what's the deal? [Re: infraxo]
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If you're in the UK, mightn't you be as well or better off with a Bechstein or a Knight? I hadn't heard of Steinway uprights being so very special, though I'll admit I haven't played one.
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#1978424 - 10/25/12 09:59 AM Re: Cheap Refurb Steinway? Is this fake or what's the deal? [Re: infraxo]
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I don't know... I haven't even heard of Knights.

A Bechstein would be great too really.

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#1978443 - 10/25/12 11:21 AM Re: Cheap Refurb Steinway? Is this fake or what's the deal? [Re: infraxo]
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Tha mantra is; (all together now, not too loud);

Get it checked out by a tech.

Call the Royal Welsh School of Music and ask who they use.
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#1978460 - 10/25/12 12:07 PM Re: Cheap Refurb Steinway? Is this fake or what's the deal? [Re: infraxo]
jdw Offline
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Knight was a respected UK maker, I think known mainly for uprights. They're no longer in production, so all the cautions about inspection by a tech would apply.
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#1978474 - 10/25/12 12:30 PM Re: Cheap Refurb Steinway? Is this fake or what's the deal? [Re: infraxo]
Casey Dan Offline
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Registered: 09/06/09
Posts: 15
Loc: Dallas, Texas
I always recommend people read this before purchasing a used Steinway piano:

A Grand Guide to Buying a Used Steinway Piano: www.usedsteinwaypiano.com
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#1978508 - 10/25/12 02:18 PM Re: Cheap Refurb Steinway? Is this fake or what's the deal? [Re: infraxo]
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Loc: Saint Paul, MN
Nice looking site Casey. I think your tag is enough though. wink
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