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#1979202 - 10/27/12 07:12 AM
Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
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Anyone research how Kontakt (player) will perform upgrading to Windows 8? I've got my VST's running fairly well but if Windows 8 can improve memory management, etc. maybe I would consider upgrading. Right now, I have zero interest in upgrading after reading/watching Windows 8 in action.
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#1979259 - 10/27/12 11:31 AM
Re: Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
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I'm also interested in this! Looking forward to any insight anyone can give. I'm due a system re-install, and perhaps moving to windows 8 is the correct path for me, so I'd like to know what are the experiences people are having.
Thanks! Rafa.
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#1979272 - 10/27/12 12:16 PM
Re: Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
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Registered: 09/24/09
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I'm reading that Windows 8 is just Windows 7, plus a screen filled with touch-sensitive icons/tiles. That's meant for mobile devices and won't work with a normal desktop/laptop.
They're removable, revealing a desktop that looks like Windows 7.
Translation: No reason to change to Windows 8. It's for your phone/tablet, not for your normal computer.
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#1979285 - 10/27/12 01:00 PM
Re: Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
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I think the idea is that in adapting Windows to tablets, they might also have optimized it in order to make the battery last longer. Which could mean less stuff going on in the background, more free CPU power, less memory waste, etc. But nobody knows for sure yet how well it actually runs compared to Windows 7.
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#1979303 - 10/27/12 01:56 PM
Re: Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
[Re: torhu]
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I googled windows 8 memory management and there was tests and evidence that 8 uses less memory and boots quicker. I figured with that Metro interface it would drain memory. It will be interesting to see what NI will have to say about this.
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#1979314 - 10/27/12 03:01 PM
Re: Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
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i bought a couple copies at work to test, but only b/c I have to be on top of the latest. But I can't imagine it will make any difference for Kontakt. I have loaded XP and windows 7 on this same laptop i use with my piano and it sounds and performs the same.
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#1979362 - 10/27/12 05:32 PM
Re: Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
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I am actually thinking of finally doing a dual boot machine: one sector for online browsing, playing and the more risky installs, and another just for work stuff: Adobe, Autodesk and the Audio products.
Since I'm already facing this situation, rather than advantages (of which there are probably few to have), I'm looking to know if anyone knows of a critical disadvantage that would involve using Win8 (for instance, I don't know, different access methods to HDD which creates pops on samples, or the likes -I'm just giving a for instance, I have no reason to believe this is the case! - )
Thanks, Rafa.
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#1979434 - 10/27/12 08:09 PM
Re: Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
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I've bought it for the simple reason in the UK people can download the Pro edition from Microsoft for just under £25 until some point in January.
However I have zero intention of installing it anytime soon, wouldn't be surprised if I waited until service pack 1 arrives on the scene.
But at that cheap price, I think it's worth buying as a gamble. In a few months time maybe komplete Ultimate, Cubase etc will have win 8 updates and run better on it.
At the moment I'm more than happy continuing with windows 7
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#1979606 - 10/28/12 10:09 AM
Re: Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
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We tested Windows 8 a bit at work. From a purely usability point of view, it is rather horrible for keyboard/mouse users. They wanted to unify the mobile/touch and keyboard/mouse user interface into one package. The result is a rather strange 2-layered design that feels tacked-on and never quite does what you want. They would have been much better off with 2 seperate editions.
I'll certainly steer clear of it for now, even if it should bring any performance benefits.
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#1979626 - 10/28/12 11:15 AM
Re: Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
[Re: Gigantoad]
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Registered: 12/23/10
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... Right now, I have zero interest in upgrading after reading/watching Windows 8 in action. ... I'll certainly steer clear of it for now, even if it should bring any performance benefits. Dejavu! I'm extremely interested in Kontakt and Imperfect Samples. I won't consider it until I get a new Mac. (real computer)
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#1979751 - 10/28/12 05:05 PM
Re: Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
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Windows 8 is horrible? Look at what these guys say. They call it the Screw You operating system. 
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#1979760 - 10/28/12 05:25 PM
Re: Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
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Not sure horrible is the right word. I personally don't like it and I think most tech sort of people will share that view.
But I could find post after post slagging off a mac, windows, Linux etc, take your pick, it's pretty meaningless.
But it isn't really aimed at tech people.
It's a huge gamble for MS, but it could pay off for them in a big way.
I own an ipad, the only reason I gave my Galaxy Tablet to my daughter and purchased the ipad was because of the music apps, Apples Core Audio is superb for this and due to the way Android does it's audio, it simply cant complete.
For everything else I was 100% happy with my Android.
BUT, if I was looking in 6 months time and I could get a Windows tablet where I could run the same software I run on my PC on it (not saying I could, I'm saying if I could), I could run all my soft synths on my tablet, even maybe cubase etc, then, I can see many many many people loving this and also loving that when they switch from their Tablet to their PC, the interface is virtually the same.
With newer laptops coming out with touch screen capabilities, this becomes even more of a good thing.
So I can see how this could take off in a huge way.
But I have two large monitors a good two feet away from my face on my high powered desktop and I wouldn't want a touch screen on it even if it was possible, so for me, all the touch screen like stuff is redundant.
So it could catch on big time, or it could bomb.
Personally I have zero loyalty to any brand and while have an Ipad purely for my music use, love Android, love Linux and have never ever had any problems with Windows 7 (have had more problems with the various Linux distros I run)
But while it might have been a tongue in cheek comment by the previous poster to yours, I hate it when people claim that only a Mac (or windows, or Linux) is a real PC, they all have their plus points and they all have their failings. And nowadays it's practically the same hardware under the bonnet anyway.
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Joe
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#1979774 - 10/28/12 06:27 PM
Re: Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
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Windows 8 is horrible? Look at what these guys say. They call it the Screw You operating system. Shows what I meant with the 2-layered design that doesn't quite do what you want. Certainly worth watching if you've never seen it in action.
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#1979866 - 10/28/12 10:16 PM
Re: Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
[Re: Gigantoad]
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... doesn't quite do what you want... Dejavue
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#2011252 - 01/08/13 03:31 PM
Re: Windows 8 + Kontakt = better????
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Registered: 07/05/09
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When the Desktop mode is invoked, does that suspend the Metro stuff (including the processes associated with the tiles), or should the Metro interface be completely turned off for the best real time performance? Anyone looked into this closely?
I've installed it on mum's PC. I feel cruel. (and I'm glad I had a separate machine on the 'net so I could Google how to do stuff!) Nevertheless, I'm also considering taking up the upgrade option that's available here too. Gotta keep up.
Greg.
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