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Originally Posted by Piano*Dad
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....Most neglected composer? Henri Herz!

Most neglected GREAT composer. ha

But I love seeing any mention anywhere of composers like Herz.


There is a reason some composers generate little sustained interest, and sometimes the reason just Herz.



Now really, was that called for? laugh


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Zez Confrey (since this appears to be "that" sort of thread).



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Zez Confrey (since this appears to be "that" sort of thread).


One of two great American composers from Peru, although not from the same one!


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Zez Confrey (since this appears to be "that" sort of thread).




I was going to mention him but decided not to for some reason.

I really like his Three Little Oddities.

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Le Monte Young is kinda forgotten anywhere I go, I'm not a "fan" but I recognise the contribution. Something should be said for a 5 hour long piano grind.

A lot of modern composers get snubbed for not being academic or artsy enough.

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Le Monte Young is kinda forgotten anywhere I go, I'm not a "fan" but I recognise the contribution. Something should be said for a 5 hour long piano grind.

A lot of modern composers get snubbed for not being academic or artsy enough.


And then there are all the modern composers who get snubbed for being too academic or artsy. Can't win, unless dead for a over a century, and even then, it's dicey.


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How come that Villa-Lobos hasn't been mentionned yet ?

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How come that Villa-Lobos hasn't been mentionned yet ?

Because he's the most "neglected" great piano composer on Pianist Corner.... grin



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Originally Posted by Plowboy
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....Most neglected composer? Henri Herz!

Most neglected GREAT composer. ha

But I love seeing any mention anywhere of composers like Herz.


There is a reason some composers generate little sustained interest, and sometimes the reason just Herz.



Now really, was that called for? laugh


Yes indeed! When the thread topic is this vague, it's my duty to start Messiaen around. Otherwise we could be at it till the end of time.


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Off the top of my head, here's a list of composers who have written some fine piano music who rarely get mentioned here, if ever, and if they do, it's in a list such as this:

Kenneth Leighton
Harold Shapero
Boris Blacher
Douglas Lilburn
Boris Tishchencko
Roger Sessions
Vincent Persichetti
Ernst Toch
Johann Nepomuk Hummel
Ignaz Moscheles
Ignaz Freidman
Ernest Krenek
Max Reger
Vincent d'Indy
Jean Françaix
André Jolivet
Arthur Honegger
Paul Hindemith
Frank Martin
Boris Tchaikovsky
Mozart Camargo Guarnieri (his dad named all the kids after a composer he loved!)
Joaquin Nin-Culmell
Igor Markevitch
Bedřich Smetana
Sigrid Karg-Elert
Nikolai Myaskovsky
Grażyna Bacewicz
Rodion Shchedrin
Charles Koechlin
Valentin Silvestrov

...and there's a great number more who don't come to mind right now. Even relatively well-known composers of piano music like Poulenc hardly ever come up for discussion here.









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I feel like Prokofiev doesn't come up as often as he should. I'll also second Granados...a great favorite of mine.


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Boris Tchaikovsky

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What an unfortunate last name.

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I feel like Prokofiev doesn't come up as often as he should.


And, considering how many versions there are of some of his works, it is surprising there are some others that are hardly represented at all. I've been working on a cool piece of his called "Paysage" (or "Landscape"), from his op. 59. My edition has a typo in the metronome marking, so I thought I would check on YouTube to see what tempo others were taking for it. And I was amazed that I could only find one single performance of it. Fortunately for my needs, it was from a recognized and expert Prokofiev pianist - Richter.

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Originally Posted by wr
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I feel like Prokofiev doesn't come up as often as he should.


And, considering how many versions there are of some of his works, it is surprising there are some others that are hardly represented at all.


You could say the same about Liszt. So many terrific works that are hardly mentioned.

As for the OP, I think Amy Beach deserves a mention.

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I wonder if Mark was facetious in throwing in "great" in the title. Such a title would assume that we can only pick from the accepted 15 or 20 "greats".

Otherwise it obviously turns into either 1) who's your favorite composer of the moment that's not Bach/Chopin/Rachmaninoff... or 2) who do you wish you heard a lot more regularly on Sirius/XM or your local classical station, even though they didn't create 25 Variations on a theme by Handel, or a suite inspired by Iberia or something... smile


I'll nominate Carl Vine. Besides everyone jumping at the chance to recommend a new listener to his Piano Sonata No 1, does anyone ever actually say anything about the work itself? If only Kreisler could post more frequently.... If his music is recommended so frequently, shouldn't people talk about his music more?

3rd sonata anyone?[/color] Ok ok fine, there was [color:#3333FF]this, but years later. I was disappointed there wasn't at least feigned interest in his recent concerto premiere.

*crickets* *crickets*


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Originally Posted by DanS
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I can't say who's neglected here, since I just joined yesterday....

Yesterday??
I swear, it seems like you're a veteran already. smile


Thanks! I do love to hear myself type blush

that waas a super cute response. Welcome to the forum DanS!


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wr, I only know choice works by some of the composers on your list because of invaluable YT contributors like John11 and especially fyrexianoff (I forget now, but I believe he is reincarnated SWMD.)

I haven't even heard of some of them. Any specific recommendations for the ones listed?:
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Off the top of my head, here's a list of composers who have written some fine piano music who rarely get mentioned here...
Kenneth Leighton
Harold Shapero
Roger Sessions
Ernest Krenek
Arthur Honegger
Igor Markevitch
Sigrid Karg-Elert
Charles Koechlin
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Originally Posted by wr
...Even relatively well-known composers of piano music like Poulenc hardly ever come up for discussion here.
I admit I only know Poulenc's two-piano concerto, but I don't understand why I hear it all the time. I don't think it's a great work at all... I cringe from that opening crash and piano flourish. The simple-hommage-to-Classical-wait-no-just-boring Larghetto.. The 3rd movement is the highlight and somewhat catchy and bouncy, but overall, the piece is hardly worth the frequency of performance and airtime that I come across. I don't even own a recording of it and I hear it all the time...

What else by Poulenc is worthwhile?

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