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#1980641 - 10/30/12 05:41 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: -Frycek]
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Originally Posted By: -Frycek
Kathleen, please, please, please stick around.


Same plea from me Kathleen! No matter how this special thread develops you are, and always will be, its heart and soul.

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#1980643 - 10/30/12 05:44 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: -Frycek]
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Originally Posted By: -Frycek
Originally Posted By: cruiser
Originally Posted By: chopin_r_us
...welcome back?


Well yes, thank you chopin_r_us!

I returned to the UK last year after living in Germany for eight years. Unfortunately I had to leave my beloved Yamaha C2M behind (sold) due to not having enough space in the new place frown


Horrors! What are you going to do??? Keyboard?? You can't go pianoless.


I've still got my old Yamaha P120 digital piano, Frycek. It will do until I get myself another acoustic which, of necessity, will be an upright of some description.

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#1980730 - 10/30/12 10:13 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: -Frycek]
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Originally Posted By: -Frycek
Kathleen, please, please, please stick around.

Yes, yes!

Great job, cruiser!
(Hope you don't mind being summoned back, Kathleen!) smile
Great to be seeing you here.

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#1980856 - 10/31/12 09:06 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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Thank you all. I will stick around, but I fear I have little to post that is worthy of the highly intelligent and insightful comments that this thread has seen.

And a special thank you to Cruiser. After reading your e-mail yesterday, I practiced a nocturne that I started way back in 2008. It has been an on-again, off-again affair of the heart, but you made me determined to finally give it my all. I've only one page to learn and promised myself I would finally complete it by the end of the year. So...my gratitude to you.

And Frycek: I so often think of our time in D.C. What fun we had. Do you remember that wild commentary that MaryRose posted on this thread about me and "you know who?" How I rushed downstairs at the hotel to try to undo any damage to my reputation. Now I think about it and have a good laugh. MaryRose, for all her super qualities, can be a little devil when she wants do. But I love her dearly as I do you.

You might think of me as the "heart and soul" of this thread but it is because of all of you that I have learned so much about our hero. AND because of all of you, I went back to the piano after a few decades and was able to conquer my mental laziness. As I mentioned to Cruiser, I was able to play so much music (with hours of practice, naturally) that I astounded myself. You all inspired me and not the other way around!

So thank-you's hardly expresses how much I owe you all. heart

As always,
Kathleen
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#1981060 - 10/31/12 06:51 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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Another movie I really didn't like about Chopin (I couldn't even watch it to the end): Impromptu.
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#1981289 - 11/01/12 10:05 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: ChopinAddict]
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As long as we're mentioning movies -- good, bad, and beloved -- I think we have to mention Song to Remember -- considered bad by many, beloved by me. smile

It introduced me to some Chopin pieces, and sent me listening to LP after LP to find out what one of them was.

(It was:)



Sorry but I'm a sucker for stuff like that.
And at the time I had no idea about the piece being chopped up. ha

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#1981316 - 11/01/12 11:58 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: Mark_C]
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Certainly looks like he's playing the piano for real!


Here's the full film:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLqyM_iQius


Edited by EdwardianPiano (11/01/12 12:11 PM)
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#1981439 - 11/01/12 04:53 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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I like it when I was a kid.
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#1981550 - 11/01/12 10:01 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: EdwardianPiano]
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Originally Posted By: EdwardianPiano

GREAT GET!
(The whole film!?!?!? It sure is.)

(And to think that once upon a time I wasted 20 bucks or whatever buying the video cassette....) ha

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#1981581 - 11/02/12 01:13 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: EdwardianPiano

GREAT GET!
(The whole film!?!?!? It sure is.)

(And to think that once upon a time I wasted 20 bucks or whatever buying the video cassette....) ha


LOL videos they seem so clunky and old now- my local charity shop is full of them, I know a bloke who still has a video player though so he goes and buys them.
I watched the film earlier but have a habit of falling asleep on the couch so missed some of it.
Have you seen Immortal Beloved? ( Gary Oldman as Beethoven)?
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#1981591 - 11/02/12 02:07 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
As long as we're mentioning movies -- good, bad, and beloved -- I think we have to mention Song to Remember -- considered bad by many, beloved by me. smile


Better than the other two movies mentioned in this thread, but I didn't fall in love with it (although at least I watched it to the end). I would call it "mediocre". The other two were a real abomination. eek
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#1981598 - 11/02/12 03:09 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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I'll give Blue Note this much though. It was the only film so far that seems to be willing to depict the reality of Chopin's illness, even though it probably did so for the wrong reasons. (Grotesquerie rather than compassion.)
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#1981684 - 11/02/12 09:31 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: EdwardianPiano]
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Originally Posted By: EdwardianPiano
....Have you seen Immortal Beloved? ( Gary Oldman as Beethoven)?

It's been on my mental 'list' forever....gotta get to it some time. smile
I've heard good things about it.

Originally Posted By: -Frycek
I'll give Blue Note this much though. It was the only film so far that seems to be willing to depict the reality of Chopin's illness, even though it probably did so for the wrong reasons. (Grotesquerie rather than compassion.)

What reality of it did they give? (I'm sure you know there are differing views.)

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#1981767 - 11/02/12 01:07 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C

Originally Posted By: -Frycek
I'll give Blue Note this much though. It was the only film so far that seems to be willing to depict the reality of Chopin's illness, even though it probably did so for the wrong reasons. (Grotesquerie rather than compassion.)

What reality of it did they give? (I'm sure you know there are differing views.)


The cough, extreme frailty, the fact he had to be carried upstairs, the lung hemorrhages. All documented facts, usually ignored.
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#1981938 - 11/02/12 07:10 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: -Frycek]
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Originally Posted By: -Frycek
The cough, extreme frailty, the fact he had to be carried upstairs, the lung hemorrhages. All documented facts, usually ignored.

Oh OK -- but not any specific diagnosis? And of course that's fine, because we don't know. The most recent theory, which I think is embraced more and more but not nearly as a consensus, is cystic fibrosis.

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#1982047 - 11/03/12 02:45 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: -Frycek
The cough, extreme frailty, the fact he had to be carried upstairs, the lung hemorrhages. All documented facts, usually ignored.

Oh OK -- but not any specific diagnosis? And of course that's fine, because we don't know. The most recent theory, which I think is embraced more and more but not nearly as a consensus, is cystic fibrosis.


No, no specific diagnosis. They just weren't so coy about it that at the end he appears to die of nothing more than a bad cold (Desire for Love) or a broken heart (A Song to Remember). They were graphic enough to let you knew he was seriously ill. (Though he's still alive and with George as Blue Note ends.)
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#1982328 - 11/03/12 06:55 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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I have the CD Desire for Love and would love to get rid of it. So Mark, if you want it, it's yours...for free because it isn't worth anything.

Just PM me your address and I'll send it along.

Kathleen

Listening to that clip brought shivers to my spine. Lord, what music!!
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#1982348 - 11/03/12 07:19 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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OOOpppsss...I meant a DVD.
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#1982410 - 11/03/12 10:27 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: Mark_C]
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Quote:
Originally Posted By: Mark_C
[quote=EdwardianPiano]....Have you seen Immortal Beloved? ( Gary Oldman as Beethoven)?

It's been on my mental 'list' forever....gotta get to it some time. smile
I've heard good things about it.



It is quite good- Gary Oldman looks quite like the Master and is believable. Not keen on the many flashbacks in it - got a bit confusing. Worth seeing though.


Edited by EdwardianPiano (11/03/12 10:27 PM)
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#1983499 - 11/06/12 04:40 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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Hi, Kathleen and Cruiser!

I do think you (all) should see Immortal Beloved if you haven't yet. Like Impromptu, it is short on factual reality, but has a kind of deep emotional truth. The theory it espouses about the identity of the "Immortal Beloved" is almost certainly wrong, but it's a great guess, and something one might wish had been true. And Gary Oldman did look scarily like the real thing. There's one portrait of a young Beethoven that looks like Oldman actually sat for it himself.

(I loved Impromptu despite its silliness. As I've probably mentioned before, it was what got me started on my still-active Chopin addiction in 1993. Whereas when I saw A Song to Rememberat the age of 14, it drove me nuts because somehow I knew most of it was horribly wrong. That was when I originally discovered that I had a connection with Our Friend, having been completely unaware of him before that.)

Frycek found this on eBay: Standup life-size Chopin cutout

They have Liszt too, and a bunch of historical figures including a collection of saints.

Elene
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#1983593 - 11/06/12 10:51 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: Elene]
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Originally Posted By: Elene
....when I saw A Song to Remember at the age of 14, it drove me nuts because somehow I knew most of it was horribly wrong....

I've never really understood why people think that's a problem. ha

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#1983597 - 11/06/12 11:16 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: Elene]
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Originally Posted By: Elene

Frycek found this on eBay: Standup life-size Chopin cutout


WOW I guess it would be nice to have it here.... next to me while I am playing the piano (I do have two pictures of him in front of me: the real photo when he was already sick and the avatar used by Frycek). Although I guess I wouldn't feel comfortable if my bird knocked it down.
Speaking of Impromptu, was it in Impromptu that there was a cage with a bird in Chopin's room? I noticed a cage in one of these movies about Fred, but I don't remember which.
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#1983598 - 11/06/12 11:18 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: Elene
....when I saw A Song to Remember at the age of 14, it drove me nuts because somehow I knew most of it was horribly wrong....

I've never really understood why people think that's a problem. ha


Well, for example those who don't know the facts could actually believe the fiction.
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#1983602 - 11/06/12 11:50 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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Thought you folks might be interested in this musical piano with Chopin's portrait on the lid:

ww.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-wooden-piano-musical-box-jewellery-box-Reuge-Swiss-movement-/261123504420?pt=UK_Collectables_Household_RL&hash=item3ccc2c7924


I'm not the seller- just saw it on ebay. Not able to bid for it myself too many bills at the moment..(


Edited by EdwardianPiano (11/07/12 12:03 AM)
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#1983606 - 11/07/12 12:04 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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Quote:
WOW I guess it would be nice to have it here.... next to me while I am playing the piano (I do have two pictures of him in front of me: the real photo when he was already sick and the avatar used by Frycek). Although I guess I wouldn't feel comfortable if my bird knocked it down.
Speaking of Impromptu, was it in Impromptu that there was a cage with a bird in Chopin's room? I noticed a cage in one of these movies about Fred, but I don't remember which.


What is your bird? A parrot?
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#1983622 - 11/07/12 01:36 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: EdwardianPiano]
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It's a cockatiel. smile
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#1983625 - 11/07/12 01:58 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: loveschopintoomuch]
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Wouldn't there be a risk of your bird depositing a 'calling card' on poor Chopin's cardboard head?
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#1983627 - 11/07/12 02:01 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: Mary-Rose]
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Yes, I was thinking of this too... blush So I am afraid it wouldn't really be a safe place for Fred after all. frown
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#1983735 - 11/07/12 11:34 AM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: ChopinAddict]
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Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
It's a cockatiel. smile


What's its name? I bet it is a character! I like birds.
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#1983815 - 11/07/12 03:57 PM Re: Just for those totally devoted to Chopin [Re: EdwardianPiano]
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Originally Posted By: EdwardianPiano
Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
It's a cockatiel. smile


What's its name? I bet it is a character! I like birds.


Howie (Howard). smile He is a whirlpool of energy, but he likes the piano and when I play he jumps into my lap, looks up and just listens. He prefers cheerful music to sad music. laugh
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