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#1984986 - 11/10/12 09:59 AM Re: What should I play for Andras Schiff? [Re: landorrano]
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Registered: 12/19/11
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Originally Posted By: landorrano
Originally Posted By: Praeludium
Yelling back at a famous musician who is doing a masterclass could have terrible consequences. If he's very influential and nasty, he could make your life very hard as a musician. Isn't it probably why almost nobody do it ? You don't want Andras Schiff as an enemy.
I think it can goes very far - you can be bothered for MUCH less in any conservatory, for instance, where there's always some politics involved. So, "insulting" the great X could be seen as a kind of suicide. But I think it's the right thing to do - it depends on what are your goals as a music student I guess.


Je ne crois pas, pas du tout! I really don't think so.

If a student doesn't "yell back" when a teacher is simply being nasty, it's because he has no spine. Too bad for him.

Salut les Franche-Comtois!



Well, from what I've been told, even just not pleasing someone, having studied in an "enemy" school, having a better level, etc. can be quite handicaping.
Some persons are just very influential. And I can only guess how Schiff's influence is like. And on the top of Schiff, there's the whole room looking at you, and you might well get a "bad" reputation for doing somethingof this kind.
Althrough I've not experienced it (in the bad way), I think this is really how it works. Peer pressure, reputation, relations, power, etc. are all things that can influence your studies and your carreer. And I bet a lot of students are willing to play the game - by lack of courage or by what they think of as intelligence, or both.
Just being seen in a masterclass might be worth it for them.

I personally just wouldn't attend a masterclass with a sh*tty teacher even if he's a world-class musician (:

Salut l'Andorran !

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#1985003 - 11/10/12 10:47 AM Re: What should I play for Andras Schiff? [Re: fnork]
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You don't think Andras Schiff reads the internet? I know some of these artists live in another world altogether from everyone else, which might very well be necessary for them to concentrate on their art. Still, artists have to be mindful of what the public thinks of them, and the internet is a great tool for finding out what a select and informed section of the audience believes. The Forum is probably one of the better such sources, so why wouldn't Mr. Schiff be aware of and ready for someone who shows up at his master class to play the first movement of the Hammerklavier sonata?

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#1985012 - 11/10/12 11:30 AM Re: What should I play for Andras Schiff? [Re: Numerian]
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Originally Posted By: Numerian
You don't think Andras Schiff reads the internet? I know some of these artists live in another world altogether from everyone else, which might very well be necessary for them to concentrate on their art. Still, artists have to be mindful of what the public thinks of them, and the internet is a great tool for finding out what a select and informed section of the audience believes. The Forum is probably one of the better such sources, so why wouldn't Mr. Schiff be aware of and ready for someone who shows up at his master class to play the first movement of the Hammerklavier sonata?


The burning question is: will it change his attitude towards his victims (a.k.a. 'students')? grin

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